Mach E's Adaptive Cruise Control (without Hands-Free)

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Ford's Intelligent ACC is available today on 2020 Explorer. (I don't know whether it's limited to certain trims or packages.) Yet I couldn't find any review. Maybe there are so many quality issues on 2020 Explorer that no one is interested in exploring its features.
"Adaptive Cruise Control With Stop-and-Go and Lane Centering"
These are probably the most similar to what would be in the Mach E. However, the exact details of what is in the Mach E is not known, for example, are they the same or a newer version of hardware/software. There is no indication yet on what sensors are on the vehicle, or what level of updating they will do.



Here is a video with a salesman showing briefly the lane centering on the Ford Edge, which starts at about halfway through the video.
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Im certainly glad these systems are controlled with a touch screen. The multiple little button icons in my Leaf are more than I usually remember. @ab13's first video (above) show the steering wheel with lots of little buttons with less than intuitive icons to remember. The video @portlandg provided shows a really valuable system and the new system for the MME should be even better.
 

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Yes, but the lane keeping assist on 20k vehicles seems to refer only to "Provides steering support to assist the driver in preventing the vehicle from departing the lane", but not "assist to keep the vehicle centered within the lane."
My 2019 RAV 3 Lmtd. has what Toyota calls 'Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist'. It pretty much behaves as Tesla's AP does. Will keep a set distance (determined by the driver) between vehicles, drive down the freeway hands free, with the driver's touch on the steering wheel every 30 seconds, takes curves, stays in center of the lane. I've driven 100 miles with very little driver input. And it's a very basic driver's assistance tech. This same tech is available on the Corolla, which is $20k cheaper than my RAV. So that functionality really should not be a steep upgrade for the MachE.

Definition from Toyota's website:

"When Full-Speed Range Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC) 19 26 is enabled and lane markers are visible, Lane Tracing Assist (LTA) 24 26 uses the lines on the road and preceding vehicles to help keep the vehicle centered and in its lane."
 
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I'm really curious of the limitations of it. It sounds like it's getting close. The biggest difference might be not having the ability to use it in city driving as opposed to Autopilot
That would be very disappointing. The full Co-Pilot upgrade should definitely have autonomous city driving capability.
 


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@SJ_Okay just got this response from Robert Iorio, Mach-E Vehicle Engineering Manager, on Instagram:

@SJ_Okay: Are you using the CoPilot hands free feature?
Robert: @SJ_Okay This is hands on active cruise driving with lane centering and lane keep with a gap. Entering a pre-mapped blue zone, the cluster completely changes and driver is allowed to go handsfree if they look forward.


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@SJ_Okay just got this response from Robert Iorio, Mach-E Vehicle Engineering Manager, on Instagram:

@SJ_Okay: Are you using the CoPilot hands free feature?
Robert: @SJ_Okay This is hands on active cruise driving with lane centering and lane keep with a gap. Entering a pre-mapped blue zone, the cluster completely changes and driver is allowed to go handsfree if they look forward.
Ford Mustang Mach-E Mach E's Adaptive Cruise Control (without Hands-Free) 4DE1E38D-82DF-4F03-8110-873FD53F632A


Interesting. So is that 89 miles of range and 55 miles to the nearest/next charger? Intelligent range.
 

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Interesting. So is that 89 miles of range and 55 miles to the nearest/next charger? Intelligent range.
I'm just glad the speedometer is measuring Ground Speed. That can be handy if I'm airborne for long periods of time.

On a more serious note, it's good to see confirmation that basic wiper controls are available on the stalk (rather than having to use the center screen menus to adjust).
 

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My 2019 RAV 3 Lmtd. has what Toyota calls 'Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist'. It pretty much behaves as Tesla's AP does. Will keep a set distance (determined by the driver) between vehicles, drive down the freeway hands free, with the driver's touch on the steering wheel every 30 seconds, takes curves, stays in center of the lane. I've driven 100 miles with very little driver input. And it's a very basic driver's assistance tech. This same tech is available on the Corolla, which is $20k cheaper than my RAV. So that functionality really should not be a steep upgrade for the MachE.

Definition from Toyota's website:

"When Full-Speed Range Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC) 19 26 is enabled and lane markers are visible, Lane Tracing Assist (LTA) 24 26 uses the lines on the road and preceding vehicles to help keep the vehicle centered and in its lane."
i have a 2016 RAV4 Hybrid that has the exact features indicated in this post. During the winter months, if it is snowing and snow piles up on the center nose of the vehicle, this feature will shutoff and send a message to your dash about it. This feature has worked flawless for me except for when snow piles on the nose.
 

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I have a 2017 Ford Fusion Energi with Ford's then-current Co-Pilot 360 including ACC. That includes lane centering which can be set either to vibrate the steering wheel when it senses the car is outside the lanes, or to turn the steering wheel and recenter the car. It's a decent feature, helpful on highways. It does not pick up the lanes if the lines are not well painted and I found the steering overcompensates; I leave that feature off but leave the vibration warning on.

I am fairly sure the Mach E comes with those same features, which are roughly equivalent to the Tesla "Autopilot" (which is nothing of the kind). The OTA for Hands Free will be roughly equivalent of the $7K option on Tesla for FSD (which is also nothing of the kind).
 
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I have a 2017 Ford Fusion Energi with Ford's then-current Co-Pilot 360 including ACC. That includes lane centering which can be set either to vibrate the steering wheel when it senses the car is outside the lanes, or to turn the steering wheel and recenter the car. It's a decent feature, helpful on highways. It does not pick up the lanes if the lines are not well painted and I found the steering overcompensates; I leave that feature off but leave the vibration warning on.

I am fairly sure the Mach E comes with those same features, which are roughly equivalent to the Tesla "Autopilot" (which is nothing of the kind). The OTA for Hands Free will be roughly equivalent of the $7K option on Tesla for FSD (which is also nothing of the kind).
According to Ford website (summarized in my original post), for 2020 model year, lane centering is only available on Escape, Edge, Explorer. I suppose it's unlikely that it was available in 2017 model year, bu got removed later.

What you're describing sound more likely lane keeping, not lane centering. With lane centering, the car should stay in the center of the lane, instead of ping pong (hit one side, and then the other side, ...). In other words, unless you assert force on the steering wheel, the car should drive itself along the lane without any vibration/nudging/sudden movement.
 
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I have a 2017 Ford Fusion Energi with Ford's then-current Co-Pilot 360 including ACC. That includes lane centering which can be set either to vibrate the steering wheel when it senses the car is outside the lanes, or to turn the steering wheel and recenter the car. It's a decent feature, helpful on highways. It does not pick up the lanes if the lines are not well painted and I found the steering overcompensates; I leave that feature off but leave the vibration warning on.

I am fairly sure the Mach E comes with those same features, which are roughly equivalent to the Tesla "Autopilot" (which is nothing of the kind). The OTA for Hands Free will be roughly equivalent of the $7K option on Tesla for FSD (which is also nothing of the kind).
There has been no indication that the OTA for hands free will be anywhere close to FSD. I haven't seen anything mentioned about auto Lane changes, auto navigating, and anything related to city driving. Then the other crazy beta features that aren't worth mentioning because they are beta.

The expectation is the paid OTA will sit it sightly better and worse than the base Autopilot. It will be able to be used hands free (so better) but only only strictly mapped highways (so worse than AP since it works on any street including city driving.)
 

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There has been no indication that the OTA for hands free will be anywhere close to FSD. I haven't seen anything mentioned about auto Lane changes, auto navigating, and anything related to city driving. Then the other crazy beta features that aren't worth mentioning because they are beta.

The expectation is the paid OTA will sit it sightly better and worse than the base Autopilot. It will be able to be used hands free (so better) but only only strictly mapped highways (so worse than AP since it works on any street including city driving.)
There is no evidence that FSD functions as the CEO claimed in 2017 "Soon a Model S will self drive itself across the country".
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