Mach-E GT Official Reviews Are Here!

[buzznwood]

Not remotely close at this price point?

Show me the list of performance crossover/SUVs with a nicer interior for less money.

Anything I can think of with a nicer interior costs more $$.

And remember the price point is starting at $42k (not including tax credit) for the interior.

I’m not saying it’s the best interior, just that the statement “not remotely close” seems inaccurate.

You answered your own question the interior is from a vehicle that costs $42k not one that costs near $70k. In comparison to similar vehicles in its price it doesn't even have heated rear seats that come on the model Y and polestar-2 and unlike euro version I don't even get the heated front screen .

Now while performance derivative in ICE land do typically cost a lot more, a lot of that cost comes from the large number of mechanical changes, there is not a huge amount of mechanical changes to the GTPE while the 'upgrades' to the cabin of the GTPE do not go far enough to justify the price point, it even uses the same steering wheel and the unique aluminum applique looks tacky the standard one is better.

When in comes to interiors the design is irrelevant to material quality, the BMW x2 m35i is far cheaper yet has much better material quality, while not available on these shores the Audi rsq3 cabin is much higher quality, the AMG GLA 45 is a similar price when you plie on the options but the cabin quality is hit and miss some bits are far higher quality, the less said about some others the better.

There are ford vehicle much lower down the price list that have more features and better quality finishing touches. The hard plastic that is used across the top of the dash in the mach-e has no place in a 42k car let alone one that costs 70k.

Is it a nice place to sit sure it is epically if you compare it to an ICE mustang or some eco box rattle can but they are very low bars, so I stand by my statement it is not remotely close to 70k nice.

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[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Ok, here we are at interior wars now. This is my retort:

Hands up, how many of you have ever dragged your scrotum across these soft touch plastics and fine leather dash coverings in order to fully appreciate the old world craftsmanship? None, I hope ?.

The MME interior is at least as nice as that of our ‘17 Pilot Touring that it’s replacing, nicer in some aspects actually. The Honda isn’t a premium make but neither is the Ford. And Ford is probably losing money on each one initially.

So, those whining about $65K GT interior quality need to think about the MagneRide shocks, forged 20”s on summers, track ready Brembos, sport seats, and the motor/battery upgrades and realize that’s where the money went.

Or wait for the King Ranch or Platinum edition. ???

 

[Mach1E]

You answered your own question the interior is from a vehicle that costs $42k not one that costs near $70k. In comparison to similar vehicles in its price it doesn't even have heated rear seats that come on the model Y and polestar-2 and unlike euro version I don't even get the heated front screen .

Now while performance derivative in ICE land do typically cost a lot more, a lot of that cost comes from the large number of mechanical changes, there is not a huge amount of mechanical changes to the GTPE while the 'upgrades' to the cabin of the GTPE do not go far enough to justify the price point, it even uses the same steering wheel and the unique aluminum applique looks tacky the standard one is better.

When in comes to interiors the design is irrelevant to material quality, the BMW x2 m35i is far cheaper yet has much better material quality, while not available on these shores the Audi rsq3 cabin is much higher quality, the AMG GLA 45 is a similar price when you plie on the options but the cabin quality is hit and miss some bits are far higher quality, the less said about some others the better.

There are ford vehicle much lower down the price list that have more features and better quality finishing touches. The hard plastic that is used across the top of the dash in the mach-e has no place in a 42k car let alone one that costs 70k.

Is it a nice place to sit sure it is epically if you compare it to an ICE mustang or some eco box rattle can but they are very low bars, so I stand by my statement it is not remotely close to 70k nice.

That makes sense then, you’re comparing smaller vehicles and a “loaded” price point.

For $70k for a GTPE, you are getting a $40k interior, but paying the extra $30k for performance.

If you were expecting anything different, you will be disappointed.

It works that way with most cars on the market.

Think anyone should compare the interior of a Challenger Hellcat to an Audi or Mercedes just because they cost the same?

Just out of curiosity, which of the GTPE options vs other Mach E variants do you think are overpriced? Feel free to line item it. Personally I found the options list quite reasonable. Only thing I’m sad is missing is cooled seats.

 

[Davedough]

It seems like every thread becomes a pissing contest anymore, geez

 

[blue92lx]

Genesis would be on that list of nicer interiors, but it would be a very very short list.

To say the Mach E is “nowhere close” at this price point seems nowhere close to reality.

Line up the $40k crossovers and I’m betting the Mach E interior is right in the middle of the pack.

I agree too 100%, and being a sports type of cross over you can't include ones from manufacturers like Volvo who do excellent quality but are luxury oriented and nowhere near the sports characteristics you're going to get in an MME. BMW, Audi, Mercedes once you add any options to the base packages you can pretty much forget it and I'd assume (without looking it up) they start higher as well with almost no options included.

 

[pt19713]

There are owners on the forum who can probably speak more knowledgeably about BlueCruise vs. FSD. All I know is that Tesla says AP is not a handsfree system, but Ford says BlueCruise is truly handsfree (on designated freeways).

I've driven Tesla AP and Enhanced AP a few times over a few hundred miles and while it's a decent ADAS setup, there are some things that spook the fcuk out of me, like phantom braking, or the sudden release of the steering wheel when you take manual control, not to mention the auditory overload of the bings and bongs as it engages/disengages.

Two of my closest friends plus my father-in-law all have Teslas with FSD I.O.U., and none of them can drive handsfree. Also, you should check out Tom Moloughney's video on FSD beta. Tom says FSD videos you see on YouTube are curating the narrative.

All that being said, FSD and BlueCruise are roughly equivalent to use in pricing to get the Level 2+ autonomous driving features.

I wouldn't consider Blue Cruise as "hands free" since the roads they work on are fairly straight highways. Tesla AP and most modern smart cruise control systems can do the same.

 

[Thor2j]

I wouldn't consider Blue Cruise as "hands free" since the roads they work on are fairly straight highways. Tesla AP and most modern smart cruise control systems can do the same.

No they can't without putting a weight on the wheel.

 

[pt19713]

No they can't without putting a weight on the wheel.

I'm referring to the other cars being able to handle slight adjustment in terms of steering input, but the hand on wheel requirement. BlueCruise won't work on bends with more extreme steering input.

 

[physib]

It seems like every thread becomes a pissing contest anymore, geez

Is it me or are they usually the same people too?

 

[Thor2j]

I'm referring to the other cars being able to handle slight adjustment in terms of steering input, but the hand on wheel requirement. BlueCruise won't work on bends with more extreme steering input.

It's in the works just like the infamous full auto pilot for Tesla.

 

[pt19713]

It's in the works just like the infamous full auto pilot for Tesla.

Prepare for YouTube & TikTok videos of people trying to beat the system for the views.

 

[MrClean]

So when it comes to performance, one thing that keeps me sane is (and I hate to invoke the name) in 2012, the Tesla Model S Performance was 4.6 0-60 and had a 1/4 trap speed of 103. They've had a 10 year head start. This is Ford's first performance EV and they're doing pretty damn well. Again, I'm not going to track this car so the seat of the pants experience will be plenty enough to make me smile.

Could they not have leveraged some of the knowledge that Tesla has already acquired? A lot of the homework has already been done.

 

[t12g]

Could they not have leverage some of the knowledge that Tesla has already acquired? A lot of the homework has already been done.

You'd think that's the case. But for some reason Ford is unable or unwilling to get it done.

 

[JoeDimwit]

I don't have one, but when I drove the Mach-e I loved it. It felt like more of a car. It had a nicer interior, better range, and felt more polished than a Model Y. There is a trade-off for that weight and finish. It can either be more expensive (it isn't) or be a bit slower (it is). I like that trade-off.

"But I want something faster AND nicer" ~ Pay more
"A GT should have performance" ~for a CUV EV, it does

But, and I HATE to keep flogging this poor horse, this isn’t just a CUV EV. This is a Mustang GT. That is supposed to mean something.

 

[JoeDimwit]

But, and I HATE to keep flogging this poor horse, this isn’t just a CUV EV. This is a Mustang GT. That is supposed to mean something.

Sure, that “something” is stay away from the sidewalk at the end of a coffee and cruise. It’s embarrassing that even though it takes my premium 4x a full second longer to get there, it still trips the quarter mile traps at the same speed.

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