Handling on Standard Range vs Extended Range Premium Models

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Does anyone know if the standard range versus extended range models are expected to handle any differently?

I don’t need the greater range and prefer a better handling vehicle. As a result, I ended up ordering the standard range premium because the extended range with its larger battery pack presumably weighs more and this can be expected to impact handling to some extent, unless Ford plans to put in place other performance upgrades to the extended range variants. Does anyone know if Ford has spoken on this? I know the premium AWD standard range and premium AWD extended range have similar acceleration targets, but I’m curious about performance in the twists.
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Well the LR version will have more weight down low which should hold it to the ground better, but then again that is more mass to move around. I bet its a wash and they all will handle similarly (except, of course, for the GT models since they will have a different suspension).
 

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A car this heavy....the difference in battery pack won’t be noticeable.

I‘m really curious how this car will handle the twisties...it’s just so darn massive, but that low cg will at least minimize body roll.
 

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A car this heavy....the difference in battery pack won’t be noticeable.

I‘m really curious how this car will handle the twisties...it’s just so darn massive, but that low cg will at least minimize body roll.
I'll ask Toonces to try when I get mine.
 

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The extra battery pack for the long range is stacked on top of the main pack under the rear seats, so the center of gravity is going to be slightly different. Without published specs of weight distribution the extra weight in the rear of the batteries I expect will probably be more than the front motor so chances are there will be a more rear bias in weight for RWD LR vs AWD LR

All BEV's are heavy so no matter many electronic acronyms manufactures employ to help disguise it physics always prevails so not sure if the differences in weight for standard range vs long range will make a noticeable impact.

Ford have some very good chassis engineers but it will all depend on how the mach-e gets set up as while Ford are capable of making some fun handling and driving vehicles they also are capable of making the complete opposite :(, as the mach-e is c2 based and with the low center of gravity from the batteries I am hopeful that it will be more c2 focus and less c2 kuga/escape when it comes to handling and driving dynamics.
 


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The extra battery pack for the long range is stacked on top of the main pack under the rear seats, so the center of gravity is going to be slightly different. Without published specs of weight distribution the extra weight in the rear of the batteries I expect will probably be more than the front motor so chances are there will be a more rear bias in weight for RWD LR vs AWD LR

All BEV's are heavy so no matter many electronic acronyms manufactures employ to help disguise it physics always prevails so not sure if the differences in weight for standard range vs long range will make a noticeable impact.

Ford have some very good chassis engineers but it will all depend on how the mach-e gets set up as while Ford are capable of making some fun handling and driving vehicles they also are capable of making the complete opposite :(, as the mach-e is c2 based and with the low center of gravity from the batteries I am hopeful that it will be more c2 focus and less c2 kuga/escape when it comes to handling and driving dynamics.
The heavier weight on the rear may improve winter handling on the RWD model.
 

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If you don't have to drive much or far, get the standard range model. This issue is as you were buying a regular gasser yet deciding according to the gas tank size! My Fusion Hybrid has a 12 gallon tank, yet I can drive over 400 miles before I need a refill. In fact I drive over a month between refills!

No present EV has that type of range because no one really needs that range. Who drives over 400 miles nonstop?
 

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I think the biggest part will be the added acceleration in the E4X. While the Premium E4 and E4X had similar targets, they managed to use the extra power in the bigger battery and its heavier wiring to drop E4X 0-60 time to 4.8 seconds despite carrying more weight. E4 isn't far behind at 5.2, though.
 

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No present EV has that type of range because no one really needs that range. Who drives over 400 miles nonstop?
While I agree that nobody drives 400mile nonstop, the issue is different for electric cars.
The Mach-e AWD has a combined range of 270 miles but that translates to a highway range of 252 miles. But level 3 chargers only recharge 80% at high speed and you never drive till the battery is exhausted. 60% of the range between charges is a more practical number. That is only 151 miles or a little over 2 hours at highway speed.
 

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The heavier weight on the rear may improve winter handling on the RWD model.
It is true, I own a Model 3 SR+ RWD and it is excellent in winter with good tires. Nothing close to what the old RWD cars used to drive like in winter conditions. I imagine Mach E should be just as good.
 

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No present EV has that type of range because no one really needs that range. Who drives over 400 miles nonstop?
Some do, but that's not entirely the issue. "Stop" and "charge" aren't always the same thing. Many places that people might choose to stop don't have chargers. If you're driving to somewhere like Mt Rushmore from very far away, you're kind of out of luck for CCS charging unless you have a LOT of range. Or many mountain parks, or rural areas, state highways, etc. Even some interstates still.
 

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The point with the ev is the weight. Its center lowered weight. Most ev have better traction than their ice counterparts
I have heard from some of the Tesla S owners I know that they get terrible traction in snow (RWD models I think).
 

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The point with the ev is the weight. Its center lowered weight. Most ev have better traction than their ice counterparts
While that's probably true, I am wondering what difference the tires make - width and grippiness. For example, my ICE mustang has pretty wide and grippy tires, as opposed to the narrower Route 1 low rolling resistance (less grippy) tires. While they are both RWD, I am hoping it's a wash or the RT1 is a little better...
 

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While that's probably true, I am wondering what difference the tires make - width and grippiness. For example, my ICE mustang has pretty wide and grippy tires, as opposed to the narrower Route 1 low rolling resistance (less grippy) tires. While they are both RWD, I am hoping it's a wash or the RT1 is a little better...
they are all season. They hold the road so good. Man, i can't wait to tell you to get to drive it. Once you drive an EV like this I don't think I can go back to an ICE.

Even the Ev vans that have a shorter wheelbase and tall and skinny, look like they will fall over in wind. They ride and hug the road better with the weight where it is in a EV.
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