😭😭😭 POST BATTERY CONTACTOR RECALL -- FIRST JUNCTION BOX FAILURE 😭😭😭😭

[macchiaz-o]

Same here. I’m now approaching 23k miles. I’m thinking I’m gonna get the extended warranty. I’m already having trim fall off. I’m not happy about that.

Verify that the extended service contract includes trim coverage. They typically do not.

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[Logal727]

Same here. I’m now approaching 23k miles. I’m thinking I’m gonna get the extended warranty. I’m already having trim fall off. I’m not happy about that.

Hmm that’s a weird thing to fall off, I’d get it covered by B2B now

 

[moparguy]

Did you feel any performance throttling on your car after the update?

 

[Blue highway]

Here’s one thing I worry about. Let’s say that today Ford makes the decision to replace all of the HVBJB’s in the 50K MMEs sold in the US. My dealer has sold a pretty good amount of these relative to others in the area (I think in the few hundred range from what they said). How many can they realistically fix a day? 1-2 maybe at first, perhaps a few more per day once they get the hang of it? It will take many many months for them to fix all of the ones they have sold. I would guess replacing all 50K parts will take over a year. Yikes.

In my estimation getting the parts replaced in a year would be a great outcome… I expect this to be hanging around for a while because of the cost involved.

 

[Blue highway]

Ford may (or may not) know how many of the 50k cars are at risk. One key word in the official statements was variability. Perhaps only a portion of the parts are likely to fail? Perhaps all of them?

I tend to think if it was all of them, there would have been many more than 286 failures. We have seen failures in 20,000 miles and failures in only a few thousand miles. We've seen failures in forum members that never DCFC and drive easy, and no failures in members that DCFC a lot and WOT a lot. Perhaps the specific parts that are failing are outliers of production?

This is not the case because the attorneys approve all correspondence and if there was any way to say it was a subset of the cars by date or by trim they would have.

 

[Blue highway]

To be fair, it seems like the problems are with the GTs specifically. 5000 miles into my 4X premium, and I've had zero software/engineering bugs.

According to the poll here in the forum yes… mostly GTs… but there are 4x premiums there too.

 

[GreenCar]

Sure, but it certainly hasn't been tested much outside of someone driving it at 30mph in flat Michigan. I'm not happy about being their tester (again).

New to this thread. Is this correct that MME built on or after 5/25/22 should have the new, more robust battery contractor? And is this the new part that scoopman will be getting from Ford, in addition to the software fix?

 

[Jonno21]

Same here. I’m now approaching 23k miles. I’m thinking I’m gonna get the extended warranty. I’m already having trim fall off. I’m not happy about that.

Is it just held on by 3M sticky pads?

 

[voxel]

New to this thread. Is this correct that MME built on or after 5/25/22 should have the new, more robust battery contractor? And is this the new part that scoopman will be getting from Ford, in addition to the software fix?

Sort of. The car had to be started after 5/25. My Orange Premium was finished on 5/25 but needed the software fix. My GTPE that started 4/20 and finished 6/15 also needs the software fix. I doubt either has the upgraded part.

 

[scoopman]

New to this thread. Is this correct that MME built on or after 5/25/22 should have the new, more robust battery contractor? And is this the new part that scoopman will be getting from Ford, in addition to the software fix?

Yes and yes

 

[Southern92]

May be showing my naivety now, but I have to (want to?) believe that if Ford is serious about the EV space then they can't allow their first major foray into EVs have a recall that they don't properly fix.

Admittedly, after waiting 7+ months (and 1 week for the software "fix"), I picked up my GTPE 30 Jun. . . so I still suffer from Rose-Colored-Glasses.

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

Hey @scoopman, do you know specifically what the DTC was that the car showed? I just bought an OBD reader and on your advice am going to put it in the car. But I’m afraid I’ll just get a bunch on codes and have no reference for what the codes mean.

 

[KevinS]

Hey @scoopman, do you know specifically what the DTC was that the car showed? I just bought an OBD reader and on your advice am going to put it in the car. But I’m afraid I’ll just get a bunch on codes and have no reference for what the codes mean.

He might have updated the first post with screenshots since the last time you saw it. There are DTCs listed there.

 

[Shayne]

My Select AWD SR failed

My SR AWD Select failed at 8.4k miles. It happens to all trims.

From what I understand the pack is similar in all trims (some have less cells). That was just the GT boys thinking they are special and better with their right foot than others. It is inherent in the design of the contactors regardless of trim. With yours failing it just shows how bad the design flaw is.

Was kind of hoping not foam backer and scotch tape for this recall. Loyalty and all. Can understand waiting for a fix in this day and age but getting a half ass one after I do not so much.

New to this thread. Is this correct that MME built on or after 5/25/22 should have the new, more robust battery contractor? And is this the new part that scoopman will be getting from Ford, in addition to the software fix?

Do not believe anyone has looked in one and seen but the consensus here is most likely yes. May be some variation around the proposed cut off date?

Hey @scoopman, do you know specifically what the DTC was that the car showed? I just bought an OBD reader and on your advice am going to put it in the car. But I’m afraid I’ll just get a bunch on codes and have no reference for what the codes mean.

See the first post there is a pic of his read outs. A lot use the app carscanner here ($10 forever?). You need to start googling P codes a bit. It use to have P codes for positive contact stuck open and stuck close which I do not see anymore. Seems they may have grouped the opposites into one now to provide us more info?

 

[alangant]

This is not the case because the attorneys approve all correspondence and if there was any way to say it was a subset of the cars by date or by trim they would have.

I failed to clearly make my point: I suspect that some fraction of the HVBJB have parts that are not as robust due to manufacturing variances and that those parts are not identifiable until they fail or start to fail. Thus, only a portion of the HVBJBs will fail, but impossible to identify at this point.

Again, this is only speculation, but I'm familiar with electrical part variability; every part is slightly different and perhaps some of the parts fell too far off the norm.

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