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That would be considered illegal on the road and potentially cause issues with insurance. If the other party in an accidental found out your accident was the result of an illegal modification you might be out a whole lot more than the $65 a day U-Haul truck you could have got.
If you're okay accepting the risk of losing your life savings over it then go for it. Chances are you won't be in an accident, but sh*t happens right?
If the vehicle is not rated to tow you are driving without insurance, no if or buts. You are also risking prosecution, especially if an accident occurred.
US insurance covers illegal activities all the time: drunk driving, running lights, texting & driving, driving without a license, etc. What makes towing so different that you think insurance wouldn’t cover it? In fact, how often does accident happen without any illegal maneuver?

I’m happy to learn and be proven wrong if you can post a section of your insurance policy that disallows illegal activity or bans towing with a non-rated vehicle.
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US insurance covers illegal activities all the time: drunk driving, running lights, texting & driving, driving without a license, etc. What makes towing so different that you think insurance wouldn’t cover it? In fact, how often does accident happen without any illegal maneuver?

I’m happy to learn and be proven wrong if you can post a section of your insurance policy that disallows illegal activity or bans towing with a non-rated vehicle.
Every state is different. In California DUIs or illegally towing etc can be denied because it's considered willful neglect or intentional misuse. That is not always covered. Insurance varies by State, not US wide. That's aside from any civil or criminal penalties. Additionally, hooking up a trailer to a vehicle, prohibited from towing, is against California law. A vehicles towing capacity is registered and verified federally. This car has no federal DOT approval to tow. At very least, I'm sure you're voiding the warranty with Ford.

But you do you bro... It's your life and your money. If the owners manual prohibits it, my risk tolerance says nah I'm okay. I'm not here to enforce any laws or moral codes though.
 
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And I believe if you were in an accident that under normal conditions would not be your fault that you could be held liable as it would be argued that you, operating illegally and in an unsafe vehicle, are wholly or partially to blame.
 

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(Names and other details have been redacted to keep my warranty intact ;).)

In addition to our Mach-E, we currently own an Itasca Navion class C motor home. We’ve enjoyed using the RV, however the price of diesel has basically doubled in the last 6 months, so we were tossing around the idea of trading down for a small travel trailer that would be towable with the Mach-e. Yes, I’m aware the vehicle is not “rated” in the US, so before purchasing a trailer we wanted to do a “test run” to check the effect that towing has on range and also to see if a trailer could be safely towed. I grew up on a farm towing horse trailers and boats with a variety of vehicles, tow rated and otherwise, so I’ve got a good feel for what a safe and unsafe towing setup looks and feels like.

For this experiment, I rented an 8x12 u-haul trailer and loaded it up to 2,500 lbs, which is the dry weight of the trailer we are looking at getting (r-pod 171). We live in the Seattle area and do a lot of camping on the east side of the state. I wanted to see if the Mach would make it over Stevens Pass and then on to Leavenworth, the closest EA charging station on that side of the pass. This would
be a distance of 113 miles with an elevation gain of approximately 4,000 feet. Since the travel trailer would be taller than the u-haul, and slightly heavier when loaded, about 3,000 lbs, in my mind a successful test would end with at least a 25% charge remaining as a cushion.
For those of you that care, the outside temperature at start location was 88 degrees, outside temp at destination was 95 degrees. I was running the A/C entire time. My vehicle is a Premuim 4x. Vehicle was in “whisper mode” to minimize strain on the drivetrain. SOC at departure was 98%. I’m running the Draw-Tite 76460 class 3 hitch with a plug and play 4 pin wiring kit from trailerjacks.com. I plan on upgrading to a 7 pin connector with brake controller.

Observations: You definitely notice the trailer is there, due to the fact that the Mach-e is so quiet every noise the trailer makes is noticeable. The Mach has much less “bounce” and sway than other vehicles I’ve towed with, probably due to the weight and low center of gravity of the batteries. There was no noticeable sway, and the trailer tracked well, even without a distribution hitch. Ending SOC was 30%, more than what I was expecting. We averaged 1.9 mi/kWh (the 3.0 shown in the photo isn’t right). We charged at the EA station in Leavenworth for about 30 minutes to a SOC of 81% and made it back home no problem. We did have to take up three parking spaces on the back side of the charging station, so charging with a trailer will require some advance planning or removing the trailer if the charging station is in a tighter spot or busy lot. If you’re going to a campground with a 50 amp hookup then this won’t be an issue.

Conclusion: After making this trip, I’m confident that the Mach-e would make an excellent tow vehicle for a small (under 3k lbs) travel trailer for distances of 120-150 miles between charges. We plan to move forward with the purchase of the R-pod and will update you all with a “part two” as we proceed!
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I'm interested to know which hitch you used. Do you have any pictures of your hookup?

I haven't tried looking, but do they make a wiring harness for the Mach-E?
 

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US insurance covers illegal activities all the time: drunk driving, running lights, texting & driving, driving without a license, etc. What makes towing so different that you think insurance wouldn’t cover it? In fact, how often does accident happen without any illegal maneuver?

I’m happy to learn and be proven wrong if you can post a section of your insurance policy that disallows illegal activity or bans towing with a non-rated vehicle.

You're actually dead wrong. I spent several years working for the company that does pretty much all the arbitration and subrogation for the entire US auto insurance industry. Our software had data entry points for denial of insurance based on negligence.

If you were involved in an accident towing in a car that has no rating for towing I guarantee it would be picked up on instantly and the claim would be denied. People forget the key thing with towing is not how much weight a vehicle can pull its how much weight a vehicle can safely stop.
 


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If the vehicle is not rated to tow you are driving without insurance, no if or buts. You are also risking prosecution, especially if an accident occurred.

If you want to tow get a different vehicle.
I totally agree that should you, say, run into someone in a crosswalk because you were unable to stop in time on those skinny tires, an American lawyer would have a field day.

Another similar issue is with the warranty. If you show up at the dealer with a drive train problem and they notice the trailer hitch, I can almost guarantee that the dealer will not cover the issue under warranty. Rent a uhaul for vacation. Much cheaper.
 

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This lead to the point the car is only not tow rated so Ford could skirt the possibility of it for a few years. I am curious if the no tow is directly related to the 5 second rule and HVJB issues or simply to avoid cars getting overheated amd toasting their batteries towing across I-10 in August.
 

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This lead to the point the car is only not tow rated so Ford could skirt the possibility of it for a few years. I am curious if the no tow is directly related to the 5 second rule and HVJB issues or simply to avoid cars getting overheated amd toasting their batteries towing across I-10 in August.
I doubt it because the UK version is tow rated. It's just a legal liability. Ford just didn't get it approved for towing in the USA. I think it's perfectly capable of it, just illegal.
 

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Another similar issue is with the warranty. If you show up at the dealer with a drive train problem and they notice the trailer hitch, I can almost guarantee that the dealer will not cover the issue under warranty.
That's not how it works (thanks to the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act). The existence of a trailer hitch doesn't prove that the car has ever towed anything. A lot of people use them for bike racks.
 

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There is no such thing as an 8x12 U-Haul trailer. Since the largest trailer, a 6x12, has two axles, that's a 5x8. https://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/RatesTrailers/

If one uses the U-Haul configurator, a Mach-E with AWD can tow the 4x8 with no more than 1,650 pounds in it, assuming the hitch is rated at 3,500 pounds. 5x8 is max 1,800 pounds of cargo.

Trailer appears very front loaded, hitch tongue weight has to be greatly exceeded.

Really bad idea. Don't try this as home.
 

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Thanks so much for this! I am currently considering hitches for a similar sized setup and was wondering the related battery usage. I have a RWD-X so I may get a little better mileage, but this is invaluable!
 

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Yeah I'm with you on Tow Ratings are a bunch of BS. I had an Explorer without the tow package, so was technically only rated to tow 2000 lbs. However the only thing the tow package added was an oil cooler and a tow button. I was able to add the tow button myself (transmission had all the programming in it). Put a hitch on that was rated at 4000 lbs and never really worried. Though we towed at most twice a year.

But in this case I was using a car that was basically rated to tow 5000 lbs with just an additional oil cooler and towed about 3500 with it. I live in the midwest so basically no hills at all.

What you have done is taken a car that is essentially rated to tow 2200 lbs and tried to tow 3500 with it.... over a mountain pass.... on a hot day. This seems like a recipe for component failure.
 

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I just wish that Ford rated the Mach-E in North America for towing, even if it was a paid "towing package" add-on like it is with other models.

I wish I could tow with my Mach-E, but it's not something I ever do and I don't want to risk the liability.
 

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That's not how it works (thanks to the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act). The existence of a trailer hitch doesn't prove that the car has ever towed anything. A lot of people use them for bike racks.
I’ve got several years as a dealer in LA and I guarantee it’s how it works. I’ve seen many denials based on aftermarket modifications made to in-warranty vehicles.
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