0-60 1 person vs 5

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Has anybody done any comparisons of 0-60 times (or similar metrics) with just a driver, vs 5, uh, not entirely in shape, individuals in the car?

My current car is quite snappy with just me, but at lets-all-go-to-lunch time (gotta maintain that shape) I have a much harder time making an, uh, impression.

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[dj_stang]

I don’t have data but I “feel” a big difference even with just another person in the car.

It makes no sense because the MachE is a heavy vehicle, so it’s harder to change the overall weight of the car from a percentage standpoint. But it is what it is, I do feel it. Probably worse on lighter cars.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I don’t have data but I “feel” a big difference even with just another person in the car.

It makes no sense because the MachE is a heavy vehicle, so it’s harder to change the overall weight of the car from a percentage standpoint. But it is what it is, I do feel it. Probably worse on lighter cars.

Yeah, definitely worse in lighter cars. Any car is going to be slower off the line if you make it heavier. My Celica still moved with 2 people in it, but nowhere near as well as it did with one. ??

 

[tbrumleve]

Weight affects any car. More weight, more power needed to move the weight. I’ve felt this in every one of the 10 cars I’ve owned in my life so far.

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

Get lighter friends…?

 

[Mach1E]

Has anybody done any comparisons of 0-60 times (or similar metrics) with just a driver, vs 5, uh, not entirely in shape, individuals in the car?

My current car is quite snappy with just me, but at lets-all-go-to-lunch time (gotta maintain that shape) I have a much harder time making an, uh, impression.

Every 100 lbs is like losing 10 hp or increases acceleration times by about 1/10th or a second.

You’re going to feel an extra 800 lbs for sure.

 

[AKgrampy]

Uphill or downhill?

 

[BigMach-E]

I noticed this much more in my Select AWD, in the GTPE, still noticeable, but not as much.

 

[Old_Norm]

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[RickMachE]

Go read you payload sticker. 5 average Americans puts you right at or likely over payload capacity. Mine is 764. 764/5= 153. Of course it impacts acceleration and handling.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Has anybody done any comparisons of 0-60 times (or similar metrics) with just a driver, vs 5, uh, not entirely in shape, individuals in the car?

My current car is quite snappy with just me, but at lets-all-go-to-lunch time (gotta maintain that shape) I have a much harder time making an, uh, impression.

That depends, where do you and your friends normally go for lunch?

 

[hprose]

I don’t have data but I “feel” a big difference even with just another person in the car.

It makes no sense because the MachE is a heavy vehicle, so it’s harder to change the overall weight of the car from a percentage standpoint. But it is what it is, I do feel it. Probably worse on lighter cars.

4 more people = 600-900 more pounds. That’s significant. Add a driver and the MME is at 6000 pounds give or take.

 

[xxiii]

Random fast food, random slow food (sushi, bbq joint, etc), occasionally someone insists on "somewhere healthy". -probably a 4 to 1 ratio or so of fast food to slow food (it is lunch at worktime after all).

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Rephrasing my original question, just to be clear what I was after (not that the answer appears to be readily available, but maybe people who like to make youtube 0-60 videos could do this test some time(s))

What is the (real world) 0-60 time for 1 person in the car?
What is the 0-60 time for 5 adult people who could stand to lose a few pounds (or "typical american" as someone put it) in the same car?

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I noticed when I got my current car that the maximum payload capacity was potentially insufficient given that it claims to seat 5 and has a roomy rear seating area (AND large trunk). Also it can supposedly detect its over capacity, display a message and refuse to drive, but I've never seen that happen. The biggie in the manual was "this car does not support towing anything" (or words to that effect). Makes we wonder what happens in cars with wimpy engines and the same seating capacity though. (in my experience being a passenger in such cars, they just end up with a 0-60 or 20 seconds or so, while people start making jokes at the driver's expense).

(I suspect "maximum capacity" is a conservative number, for liability and warranty reasons).
Hm, might be nice if manufacturers were required to provide performance numbers when vehicle is at max capacity, on standard level pavement, at sea level.

 

[Mach1E]

Random fast food, random slow food (sushi, bbq joint, etc), occasionally someone insists on "somewhere healthy". -probably a 4 to 1 ratio or so of fast food to slow food (it is lunch at worktime after all).

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Rephrasing my original question, just to be clear what I was after (not that the answer appears to be readily available, but maybe people who like to make youtube 0-60 videos could do this test some time(s))

What is the (real world) 0-60 time for 1 person in the car?
What is the 0-60 time for 5 adult people who could stand to lose a few pounds (or "typical american" as someone put it) in the same car?

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I noticed when I got my current car that the maximum payload capacity was potentially insufficient given that it claims to seat 5 and has a roomy rear seating area (AND large trunk). Also it can supposedly detect its over capacity, display a message and refuse to drive, but I've never seen that happen. The biggie in the manual was "this car does not support towing anything" (or words to that effect). Makes we wonder what happens in cars with wimpy engines and the same seating capacity though. (in my experience being a passenger in such cars, they just end up with a 0-60 or 20 seconds or so, while people start making jokes at the driver's expense).

(I suspect "maximum capacity" is a conservative number, for liability and warranty reasons).
Hm, might be nice if manufacturers were required to provide performance numbers when vehicle is at max capacity, on standard level pavement, at sea level.

I answered this in post 6.

It’s an old drag racing rule of thumb. 100 lbs = 1/10th of a second.

If you want to play with an online calculator, try here-

https://www.carspecs.us/calculator/0-60

Not super accurate for an electric car (since we are faster with less hp), but the same concepts apply to weight gain.

 

[RickMachE]

I noticed when I got my current car that the maximum payload capacity was potentially insufficient given that it claims to seat 5 and has a roomy rear seating area (AND large trunk). Also it can supposedly detect its over capacity, display a message and refuse to drive, but I've never seen that happen. The biggie in the manual was "this car does not support towing anything" (or words to that effect). Makes we wonder what happens in cars with wimpy engines and the same seating capacity though. (in my experience being a passenger in such cars, they just end up with a 0-60 or 20 seconds or so, while people start making jokes at the driver's expense).

(I suspect "maximum capacity" is a conservative number, for liability and warranty reasons).
Hm, might be nice if manufacturers were required to provide performance numbers when vehicle is at max capacity, on standard level pavement, at sea level.

I believe your understanding is incorrect on 2 fronts.

First, the car will not display anything if you load it over payload. The only vehicle(s) I know that will do this are current Lightning / F-150s with the scale option.

Second, no vehicle will refuse to drive if the driver overloads it.

Finally, you are incorrect on the maximum capacity. The GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) is what the car is designed for as far as components - suspension, brakes, drive system, etc. Can it go more than that? Sure. How much? You won't know.

The empty weight of the vehicle, plus the payload equal the GVWR. Therefore, every pound you go over that total weight by taking a full load of 5 people that exceed the payload, is a pound that is stressing the components. Slap the brakes to the floor on a wet road, and the car isn't going to stop in the distance you'd expect because it's overloaded. Drive up to top of the mountain, and you might find a drive component overheats.

Truck owners, especially the less than bright ones (I am NOT stating that anyone who puts 5 people in a Mach-E over the payload is less than bright), often exceed payload by large amounts, i.e. they load up with passengers, put crap in the bed, and then hook up their huge camper. That's really dangerous, and they may learn that at some point when a component gives way.

If I were you, and I was say 50 or 100 pounds over payload with my 4 friends, I'd drive cautiously. If the 5 of you decided to take a trip and put hundreds of pounds of luggage in the vehicle, you need to take a different vehicle, your Mach-E is not equipped for that.

Capacities are there for a reason. Exceed them at your own risk. And keep in mind that you now possess this knowledge. Should you ever get in an accident and you're way over payload, and someone figures that out, a good attorney will search your online records and find stuff like this discussion. Again, probably unlikely driving to lunch. More likely with an overload pickup and a camper that breaks free and kills someone.

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