Farley to Musk: Where are those 90,000 adapters? [Yahoo Interview: Farley on EVs, NACS Adapter, New Detroit HQ @ Michigan Central Station]

[McSquashy]

2024

Model year or calendar year?

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[Sikkun]

Model year or calendar year?

Calendar. Battery is made in China which disqualifies it under the new restrictions.

 

[McSquashy]

Calendar. Battery is made in China which disqualifies it under the new restrictions.

Well, if that's really the case, I need to have a little discussion with my salesman. I was led to believe that my 2023 Mach-E qualified for the federal tax credit.

 

[Vulnox]

Well, if that's really the case, I need to have a little discussion with my salesman. I was lead to believe that my 2023 Mach-E qualified for the federal tax credit.

This is why many of the dealerships tell potential buyers to consult with their tax advisors and don't make promises. There are a number of reasons that someone may not qualify even if the MME was eligible, like tax burden or income restrictions or whatever.

Not saying this against you, it's still at your salespersons feet in the end if they made any guarantee of the tax credit on your deal. I am just saying they should have known better than to do that.

 

[Sikkun]

Well, if that's really the case, I need to have a little discussion with my salesman. I was lead to believe that my 2023 Mach-E qualified for the federal tax credit.

If you leased it there is a loophole apparently and they still qualify.

 

[Scarpia]

Whatever. Do you get off by going on forums and instructing people on what is right and wrong? Jag posts like this drive people away. Clearly this is not a safe place to vent if it is not worded perfectly for geniuses like you.

We paid a premium for these vehicles, Ford says stuff is coming and doesn't deliver. People come here to vent and discuss, then get lectured. Thanks for the lecture, really valuable.

Hmm...
TimBop posts / reaction score = 6,747 / 13,787
Yours = 300 / 243

If you are driven away by his post, that would surely be a positive outcome based on your contributions to this thread.

 

[4sallypat]

Not sure it's even possible, as I noted. It does detect whether it's locked, although that might just be some physical connection inside the adapter that completes a circuit. I would guess the charger can't tell otherwise, but who knows.

I'm not so sure liability really matters either. That would assume that Tesla/Ford would accept liability and pay if something goes wrong while using an official adapter, but I have doubts about that.

Since the adapters are merely passive and only have temp sensor built in, they don't have any intelligence built in, I'd say it's impossible for either the charger or the vehicle to tell which brand adapter is being used.

Also since all the adapters are not yet UL 2252 certified, but all of them are compliant - should be safe to say that A2Z, Lectron, and Tesla/Ford will all be safe to use.

After all, all the manufacturers of adapters have liability insurance as all manufacturers should have.

 

[RickMachE]

If you leased it there is a loophole apparently and they still qualify.

If you lease it, the tax credit goes to Ford, not you, so it's deducted from the cost, but you don't apply for it. Just clarifying for others.

 

[dbsb3233]

If you leased it there is a loophole apparently and they still qualify.

Right. I was talking about purchase, but leasing still has the loophole that allows it to qualify AFAIK.

 

[ChasingCoral]

You think MBAs write theses? Most people in business school don’t even go to class half the time. It’s just all about networking and getting a job, preferably going on some trips when you can

The professors will be publishing case-studies on this.

 

[grein002]

If you lease it, the tax credit goes to Ford, not you, so it's deducted from the cost, but you don't apply for it. Just clarifying for others.

But make sure it is, in fact, deducted!

 

[phil]

The professors will be publishing case-studies on this.

Who will read them?

 

[ChasingCoral]

Who will read them?

The bots MBA students use to study for exams.

 

[agoldman]

I think this tread has gotten a bit off topic..

 

[tuminatr]

I heard they are going to duke it out MMA style.

Yes, but it's PPV so not sure if it would be worth it.

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