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[skiingj]

Sorry to hear. I'm nearby in Roseville. I almost never buy at the Roseville Automall as most dealers have ADM and often refuse to negotiate off sticker. MME Selects and Premiums have a $5k ADM. I usually don't even waste my time with the Automall. I picked up my last new model year Infiniti from San Diego to save $10k. Auburn Ford is a very small dealership so it will be interesting to see what they do.

I bought my MME Premium from Dixon Ford with no BS and no ADM.

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[Carsinmyblood]

Ford cannot as a matter of law allow me to drive to the factory and drive away with a new car without a dealer getting a cut if the dealer's association in my state has put legislation in place prohibiting this.

That has nothing to do with consumer protection laws. Dealers and their profits are being protected.

 

[yngwenli]

You should ask your dealer since there has been people here who have gotten what you got, but the dealer honored the old price after talking to them.


If you've NEVER spoken a single word to your dealer and have no earlier screenshots/proof that they accepted it at the old price, then that's not as good of a position to be in really. Remember, we are actually not Ford's customer, but the dealer is Ford's customer and we're the dealership's customer. Franchise car laws prevents us from buying direct and a dealer has to be involved.

A lot of problems has to do with how the dealer normally operates. I remember folks from Hawaii where almost all the dealers now charge a mark up. It's nearly impossible to avoid it sounds like. That's Hawaii though.

Not having any proof and NEVER having interacted with your dealership at all is a recipe for disaster in the buying process now with how things are currently in the world.

In my case, before I even picked a dealer, I researched for a few days here. Have had multiple interactions in email, voicemail, text with the dealership all confirming everything. I also did screenshots every step of the way.

That doesn't help you now, but your screenshot so far isn't enough proof that they were going to honor the price since it wasn't even accepted (yet).

 

[ripperAZ]

First of all find a dealer who wants to take the car and deal with you without adding any money then tell your current dealer you gonna switch the dealership which he can’t prevent

That’s pretty gamey. It’s almost like they want you to give them the car back so they can get more for it after we’ve waited. it’s just obnoxious it needs to stop

dealers. Grow up. Be fair in business We will find Kia’s and Hyundais and When the market changes you’ll look like Mr. Putin. Kind of. ?

 

[WNKent]

If it was just added and not already there when you purchased (do you have the screenshot from the original?), immediately Tweet Mike Levine (@mrlevine) and tell him what happened and the dealer’s name.

Who is Mike Levine?

 

[mkhuffman]

Ooof. I couldn't disagree with this more, my friend. One of the most important responsibilities of government is consumer protection. Even informed consumers get taken to the bank by bad actors, like the dealer in this thread. I'm not saying that there *must* be a law to prevent this, but adding one would sure as hell be a good thing.

I 100% disagree. It is your responsibility to be an informed consumer, especially when you are going to spend $60,000 on a car. The car dealers are not doing anything illegal by adding ADM, and while you don't like it, it is the way a free market works. I think the free market is a lot better than a market that is controlled by politicians.

Ford cannot as a matter of law allow me to drive to the factory and drive away with a new car without a dealer getting a cut if the dealer's association in my state has put legislation in place prohibiting this.

That has nothing to do with consumer protection laws. Dealers and their profits are being protected.

Mitch is making my point. Some people think the laws that prevent Ford from selling directly to you are good. Some people want the government to mandate who you can buy a car from. What are the consequences? Mostly bad, IMO, but the laws were created to protect jobs, or so they will say.

And now that we have those laws, who will get rid of them? It is very hard to get rid of a law, even a bad one. So we should not create new ones just because you can't do your own research and take personal responsibility for your own actions.

The law and Ford will protect you if you get a signed agreement from the dealer. If you don't, it is not the dealer's fault. It is not Ford's fault. And it is not the politicians' fault for failing to create some sort of law that will protect you from making a bad decision. It is your fault. Take responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others.

 

[ChuckA]

That $10,000 added to this order as E24 was done at the ford.com order status and was not done by the dealer. It almost appears that Ford is giving a dealer permission to add ADM.

After I placed my reservation at Ford.com the dealer had me come down and sign a Retail Sales Order. I signed one without my x-plan discount because they wanted Ford to provide the price on the dealer invoice. I purchased in August ‘21 at the correct x-plan price with no ADM added.

Two months after my purchase my order online showed a price increase and $3,000 E23. It was a Premium and MSRP was $56,440, x-plan price was $55,600.

 

[mkhuffman]

Who is Mike Levine?

He is a Ford executive who has helped others on this forum who needed various forms of help, including dealers who were misbehaving. I don't know his title but you can find him on that POS social media site Twitter.

 

[Tngo23]

Dealer just added line item E24 to my order, increasing my price by 10,000. I order this vehicle back in September and haven't changed anything. Ford raised the price by 750 back in November, but this is a dealer markup. Can they do this to an existing customer order?

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So sorry to hear such a BS price hike from your Dealership. You are in CA as am I....Who is the Dealer? Southern Cal?

I forget which post but there is a sheet that has the price hike back in December 2021. If you ordered before December 8, 2021. You should be price protected from the MSRP of the original price.

I bought from Folsom Lake Ford in Northern CA and they tried to add $2K in the beginning but I said, no thx and have honored the MSRP. Order date 10/28/21......GTPE has shipped and delivery is 4/8 to 4/14/22 so we will see

If that was me and as much as I want the MME today. I would not spend $1 more than MSRP. Reason is the Dealership didn't pay MSRP but a lower price from Ford.

Keep us updated and good luck

 

[mkhuffman]

That $10,000 added to this order as E24 was done at the ford.com order status and was not done by the dealer. It almost appears that Ford is giving a dealer permission to add ADM.

After I placed my reservation at Ford.com the dealer had me come down and sign a Retail Sales Order. I signed one without my x-plan discount because they wanted Ford to provide the price on the dealer invoice. I purchased in August ‘21 at the correct x-plan price with no ADM added.

Two months after my purchase my order online showed a price increase and $3,000 E24.

If you have a signed sales agreement, Ford will help you get the dealer to honor it. It has happened multiple times for others.

 

[WNKent]

He is a Ford executive who has helped others on this forum who needed various forms of help, including dealers who were misbehaving. I don't know his title but you can find him on that POS social media site Twitter.

Niiiiice, thanks. I brought up the $2000 increase on my yet to be delivered Mach E and then tilted their collect

He is a Ford executive who has helped others on this forum who needed various forms of help, including dealers who were misbehaving. I don't know his title but you can find him on that POS social media site Twitter.

Niiiiice, thank you. When I mentioned the $2000 MSRP increase to my dealership and price protection, they tilted their collective heads in confusion, like my dog does.

 

[ChuckA]

If you have a signed sales agreement, Ford will help you get the dealer to honor it. It has happened multiple times for others.

This was 2 months after I took delivery. Sometimes Ford does strange things.

 

[Tngo23]

So sorry to hear such a BS price hike from your Dealership. You are in CA as am I....Who is the Dealer? Southern Cal?

I forget which post but there is a sheet that has the price hike back in December 2021. If you ordered before December 8, 2021. You should be price protected from the MSRP of the original price.

I bought from Folsom Lake Ford in Northern CA and they tried to add $2K in the beginning but I said, no thx and have honored the MSRP. Order date 10/28/21......GTPE has shipped and delivery is 4/8 to 4/14/22 so we will see

If that was me and as much as I want the MME today. I would not spend $1 more than MSRP. Reason is the Dealership didn't pay MSRP but a lower price from Ford.

Keep us updated and good luck

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[IamIA]

Back out now and dont let this stinking dealer have the car because you back out after the cat is already made.
Find a dealer that does not charge over MSRP or go with another car.

 

[Cm12]

I 100% disagree. It is your responsibility to be an informed consumer, especially when you are going to spend $60,000 on a car. The car dealers are not doing anything illegal by adding ADM, and while you don't like it, it is the way a free market works. I think the free market is a lot better than a market that is controlled by politicians.



Mitch is making my point. Some people think the laws that prevent Ford from selling directly to you are good. Some people want the government to mandate who you can buy a car from. What are the consequences? Mostly bad, IMO, but the laws were created to protect jobs, or so they will say.

And now that we have those laws, who will get rid of them? It is very hard to get rid of a law, even a bad one. So we should not create new ones just because you can't do your own research and take personal responsibility for your own actions.

The law and Ford will protect you if you get a signed agreement from the dealer. If you don't, it is not the dealer's fault. It is not Ford's fault. And it is not the politicians' fault for failing to create some sort of law that will protect you from making a bad decision. It is your fault. Take responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others.

As we both know, Ford and Mike Levine have repeatedly helped people when dealerships tried to ignore enforceable, signed contracts. This is good on Ford. But that means there are many dealers blatantly ignoring enforceable contracts unless someone is both an informed consumer who knows who to try and contact and ALSO fortunate enough that Ford and/or Mike Levine intervened AND it wasn’t worth the consequences for the dealership. No matter how informed the consumer is, if Ford and/or Mike Levine was too busy to intervene, they’re screwed unless they go to court. Sure, they’ll win, but at what cost? The fact that dealerships know all of this and yet do it anyway - on a regular basis, apparently - is when government action is needed. How many people simply got hosed by the dealer because they weren’t “informed” *enough*? Today, I literally have to be ready to litigate if order a vehicle and have a completely valid, enforceable contract. That’s insane.

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