Charging at a Tesla Charger Outlet

[ConejoRed]

Used our Tesla Tap twice to charge at a timeshare in Palm Springs that only had two Tesla chargers and no other chargers. Took up one of the spots for most of the day one day (while we we spent the day at the pool) and I am sure there were a lot of Tesla owners who were staying there probably not happy that we were taking one of "their" spots but we did not care! We have the 60amp Mini and it worked well (and we could just keep it in the glove box for easy access). I expect they will be seeing more and more non-Tesla's using their Tesla destination chargers going forward.

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[AjzRide]

Can you post where you saw that? I can't find anything about that and it seems crazy seeing as some tesla stations can't keep up with demand so adding non-teslas would be a pretty bad idea

https://www.gearbrain.com/tesla-supercharger-accessible-other-evs-2649585338.html

 

[AllenXS]

Well that shoots down using their network on the road then (DC fast chargers). I just figured that was the case to keep non Tesla cars out of his network.

Good point. On one hand he says he wants there to be ev's from other companies. The he sets up propriety gear that they can't use. Real clear messaging.

 

[ConejoRed]

Also: https://insideevs.com/news/461503/tesla-supercharger-network-low-key-share-agreements/

 

[solarmoo900]

https://www.gearbrain.com/tesla-supercharger-accessible-other-evs-2649585338.html

Also: https://insideevs.com/news/461503/tesla-supercharger-network-low-key-share-agreements/

From that image in the "insideevs" post it looks like theres another car manufacturer using the tesla plug. Tesla has always been open about being able to use their plug (https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35030461/why-other-car-companies-dont-use-tesla-superchargers/) but you basically give up the right to ever sue tesla.

From those articles it doesn't look like they'll work with CCS for instance, just other car companies can add a tesla port and then use the network

 

[ChasingCoral]

Can you post where you saw that? I can't find anything about that and it seems crazy seeing as some tesla stations can't keep up with demand so adding non-teslas would be a pretty bad idea

Here's what Google yielded. I'll believe it when I see it.
https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tes...rger-network-for-all-evs-are-becoming-clearer

 

[dbsb3233]

Used our Tesla Tap twice to charge at a timeshare in Palm Springs that only had two Tesla chargers and no other chargers. Took up one of the spots for most of the day one day (while we we spent the day at the pool) and I am sure there were a lot of Tesla owners who were staying there probably not happy that we were taking one of "their" spots but we did not care! We have the 60amp Mini and it worked well (and we could just keep it in the glove box for easy access). I expect they will be seeing more and more non-Tesla's using their Tesla destination chargers going forward.

Teslas frequent use our Electrify America chargers (the CHAdeMO port), so I just look at it as turnabout being fair play.

 

[mburtsvt]

..and finally a map, (look up) of Tesla Destination Chargers.

https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bo...1513410228&zoom=5&filters=destination charger

 

[AjzRide]

I guess my point was that if from a software standpoint it becomes possible, someone will make an adapter to take care of the physical plug differences.

 

[dbsb3233]

I guess my point was that if from a software standpoint it becomes possible, someone will make an adapter to take care of the physical plug differences.

The adapter would be easy. That's not the problem. DCFC and payment processing requires more handshaking with the car, which means it needs to be authorized by the charger. Which means Tesla (that owns all Superchargers) controls whether they would allow non-Tesla vehicles to using their network, at what prices, terms, etc.

 

[dbsb3233]

https://www.gearbrain.com/tesla-supercharger-accessible-other-evs-2649585338.html

That's a curiously vague answer from Tesla. Almost sounds like "Yeah, we allow one specific non-Tesla model that there's 50 of on the road to use our network".

 

[Billyk24]

New is the Rivian branded "DC CCS superchargers" that will only work with their brand. Hold on, help is available as Rivian will make their AC powered chargers open to all.

 

[Macsurveyr]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35030461/why-other-car-companies-dont-use-tesla-superchargers/

 

[smp]

I've read through all the posts here, and I just placed my order for the Tesla Tap Mini 60A:
http://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=146

Thanks to you all for the advice and assistance here!

smp

 

[Swirls78]

You can use the Level 2 Aka Tesla Destination chargers, with an adapter. If you are in an area that has several Tesla destination chargers that are accessible, the adapter is a good idea.

Morning! I am going to be a new Mach E owner later this month. With that said, please take it easy on me? What model/kind of adapter would I need to charge at Tesla stations?