Mach E Class action Lawsuits Ads on Facebook

[dtbaker61]

Looks like Facebook's algorithm has figured out I have a Mach E as "Class Action Lawsuit" ads have started to populate my feed. Ford Mustang Mach-E Shutdown Defect | Hagens Berman (hbsslaw.com). Seems a couple of law firms are looking to nurse at the teat of Ford Motor Company. Anyone here participating?

I just took a quick look..... there are only 9 Plantiffs (in 7 states), the most of the complaints have been dismissed since ford did issue software recall, made remove/replace available, and nobody actually died from sudden loss of power with HVBJB failure.

https://www.hbsslaw.com/sites/defau...h-e/2023-08-11-order-on-motion-to-dismiss.pdf

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[Mirak]

This is just a poor attempt at a money grab. Ford admitted wrong, did a recall, and will replace parts under warranty if they break.

The funny part is that the recall is what makes your car SAFER because rather than just dying on the road, you can limp home or to the dealer safely.

Maybe they’ll have luck going after the “contractors” though. ?

The HVJB failures suck, but I’m not sure there’s a real lawsuit here.

An easier one would be to go after the hidden 5 second limit. For sure we were duped.

Everybody keeps saying Ford will replace the parts under warranty, but nobody has explained what that means. Does that mean that once your warranty expires, you’re SOL, or that Ford has extended the warranty for this issue? And for how long? And where is that in writing?

 

[DYohn]

Why do people feel the need to sue over everything? I wish more judges would throw this sort of crap out, and fine the lawyers filing the cases for wasting the court's time.

 

[Mach1E]

Everybody keeps saying Ford will replace the parts under warranty, but nobody has explained what that means. Does that mean that once your warranty expires, you’re SOL, or that Ford has extended the warranty for this issue? And for how long? And where is that in writing?

8 years is your warranty.

Part of the lawsuit claim is to reimburse people for costs associated with replacing the HVJB.

For the next 6+ years that’s of no concern of ours.

Seems silly suing to fix a problem that won’t exist for some time in the future when most of us won’t own the car.

The “diminished value” claim is baseless because our resale value didn’t change when the HVJB issue came up, so likely impossible to win that claim.

And if they could win that claim, any owner of any recalled vehicle could sue for the same. Not gonna happen.

 

[kodiakng]

In the law notice it made reference to vehicles produced between May 2021 and May 2022. Question...... My 21 Job 1 was made in December 2020. (My car has also recieved Power Up 2.7.3 which deals with HVBJB failures). Please help - what is the significance of the May 2021 and May 2022 date range?

IANAL but i would think they can only plead for manufacture dates of their current clients in the class; the date range could change at a later date for the counts that survived the motion to dismiss.

 

[kennethjk]

I just took a quick look..... there are only 9 Plantiffs (in 7 states), the most of the complaints have been dismissed since ford did issue software recall, made remove/replace available, and nobody actually died from sudden loss of power with HVBJB failure.

https://www.hbsslaw.com/sites/defau...h-e/2023-08-11-order-on-motion-to-dismiss.pdf

So I guess someone has to sacrifice themselves, kick the bucket and then we get the part replaced.

I am not volunteering!!

 

[ARK]

Everybody keeps saying Ford will replace the parts under warranty, but nobody has explained what that means. Does that mean that once your warranty expires, you’re SOL, or that Ford has extended the warranty for this issue? And for how long? And where is that in writing?

I think a recall trumps the warranty. My 2006 Mustang had the Takata air bag recall done without any out of pocket cost in 2018, way outside the three year 36,000 mile warranty.

 

[generaltso]

hit the bucket

I think it only works if you kick it.

 

[generaltso]

I think a recall trumps the warranty.

Sure. But there is no recall for replacing the HVBJB.

 

[RickMachE]

Why do people feel the need to sue over everything? I wish more judges would throw this sort of crap out, and fine the lawyers filing the cases for wasting the court's time.

Why are there so many suits like this? Lawyers. Contingency fee, 1/3 of settlement plus expenses.

Why do people feel the need to sue? Well, besides the above (lawyer convincing them), it's the feeling that they're missing out on something, coupled with the belief that the big guy is out to screw the little guy.

Rarely does the class get any payout worth talking about. I have submitted for many of the years AFTER the suit was brought, and a determination was made that there in fact was a legitimate issue. Besides stocks from the internet crash of 2000, the only payout of an significance I've gotten was for a contact lens class action, got a check close to $800 last month.

Most are silly payouts, under $20 a person. If you fit the class, and it's already been determined, by joining you simply dilute the average payout, but it's already been decided that the payout will take place.

There have been significant class action suits in recent years. Boy Scouts of America and Michigan State and the gymnasts. Some of those payouts were in the millions.

This is shyster lawyer crap. Some of the class members belong to this forum and posted about it when it started (unless it's a different suit). There were no damages at that time, even imagined.

 

[ARK]

Sure. But there is no recall for replacing the HVBJB.

Yes, you’re right, I looked at the recall language again, and it doesn’t say anything about replacing the part if the software fix (which is the focus of the recall) still results in a future failure. I guess the issue hasn’t arisen so far since no one is past the 100,000 mile, 8 year electric component warranty, but it will be an issue in the future.

In fact, I tried googling it to see what happens in this sort of situation (post-recall failure, who pays for the subsequent fix), and found an article in the Chicago Tribune. The article is a question/answer from a reader complaining how their Ford Escape had some steering issue, a recall was done with a software fix, and on a subsequent failure, Ford was refusing to fix it again saying the recall was closed as the software fix was already applied.

NHTSA basically endorsed this saying the owner should file a complaint if they felt some new recall was warranted. This does not bode well for us.

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

I am no fan of this kind of nonsense. The only outcome, usually, is the attorneys make some bank and the actual plaintiffs get some nominal fix or fee. Example: Front loading washers (GE if think) the front O-ring would mildew and cause the clothes to smell. Class action that I never signed up for but the attorneys must have made them replace everyone's. Ok, cool so technician comes out and changes the O-ring. I ask him, what stops it from mildewing again, if we are just replacing the symptom and not addressing the problem........Well needless to say one month later back to the same issue. Now this was many years ago, but the only winners here were the attorneys. Yeah, had to dump the washer......pissed? yes, but more at the attorneys than GE. If we're going to fight, fight for something; not just your own pocket...............

Yes, attorneys I know some of you provide a service that is needed. Think "Erin Brokovich", but there is way too much Ambulance Chasing going on in this country. Did you really enter Law School "itching" to push fake patients back and forth through shady Pain Mgt Docs and Chiropractors?

 

[Mark IV]

I think a recall trumps the warranty. My 2006 Mustang had the Takata air bag recall done without any out of pocket cost in 2018, way outside the three year 36,000 mile warranty.

Recalls never expire. Ford still has parts for the Pinto gas tank recall. AMC had a recall for heater cores bursting in the Renault Alliance and as Chrysler bought AMC, they became responsible. 30 years later a local dealer sent a tech to a "collector" who has six Alliances in his field awaiting "restoration" to replace the heater cores.

 

[Jimrpa]

Is it possible to bring a class action suit against the lawyers for harassment and causing necessary mental anguish? ??? it’s stupid things like this that clog up our legal system and give lawyers a bad name ???

 

[BigMach-E]

Okay, so. Let’s make an analogy. Transmission failure on an ICE car being roughly similar to the Mach-E HVJB failure in terms of how catastrophic it is for operation.

Replacement of the HVJB out of warranty would be roughly 2000-3000 dollars. Depending on the failure of the ICE vehicle’s transmission, it’s going to be in that range or north.

Is it likely that you are going to have the original HVJB that hasn’t already failed and have a failure after the 100k mileage mark? Unlikely.

Ford’s response to the issue was lacking in certain areas, but it’s totally not worth suing over.

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