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They are. But they’re getting updated.
Wait. What?
If the 2021 GTs have 88 kWh usable and the 2022 have 91 kWh usable... .then why do they have the same range figures?
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Wait. What?
If the 2021 GTs have 88 kWh usable and the 2022 have 91 kWh usable... .then why do they have the same range figures?
Because Ford hasn’t updated the EPA estimates for the GTs yet. They updated the other trims, but some of the numbers don’t make a lot of sense. But it won’t really matter since the 2021s are getting the increase in usable capacity too.
 

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From all I’ve read, it takes way longer than 15, even 30, minutes to condition the battery. It most certainly depends on ambient temps but it seems it takes at least a few hours.

With this method, it may work, given enough time, it just depends if when it charges the battery does it get it to the same “ready” temp as a precondition? Is optimal temp for charging the same as optimal temp for driving? I don’t think it is.
You should do a test one day apart when there are similar temps. One doing a departure precondition, another doing the charging/remote start. See what the HV battery temp gets to after the 15 minute preconditioning period.
 

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I had TSB 21B22 applied Friday, and when I went to pick up from service I saw that 2.1.0 had applied. Not sure if it happened before or after they did the 21B22 updates...
 

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Because Ford hasn’t updated the EPA estimates for the GTs yet. They updated the other trims, but some of the numbers don’t make a lot of sense. But it won’t really matter since the 2021s are getting the increase in usable capacity too.
I'll believe that when I see it. Maybe by the time the 23's are out the 21's will get it.
 


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Yep - same experience. 21P22 cleared my charge location and settings. I had to re-add my home location and set the limit. Not sure if *everyone* who gets 21P22 applied has to do this ... but it seems typical since quite a few people here had to do the same thing.
I did as well
 

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I'll believe that when I see it. Maybe by the time the 23's are out the 21's will get it.
‘21s are already getting it before ‘22s are even out lol. It’s just later build ‘21s waiting for the update, which will probably be anytime now.
 

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Some here. I noticed the car charged to 100% when I plugged at home. But it was good so I could confirm using the odb2 adapter that the real value for the battery charge went to 93% instead of previous 89%. So this update really increased the usable battery percentage.
It seems very low to me. When I'm at 100% is shows between 95-96% (68 kWh battery). I have no way to confirm that my usable battery has increased, my "high voltage battery to empty) peaks at 61-63 Kwh in Car Scanner, which is far from 95%, so I don't understand at all. On date is not accurate for sure
 

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I think mine went up after updates were applied last month. What parameter would one look at to see the usable %age? I have OBDLink (only one network at a time) and FORScan Lite (overwhelming number of parameters and you have to know the module).
 
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I was able to confirm that setting a departure time is the only way to pre-condition the batteries. Simply doing a remote-start doesn't do this.

Pre-conditioning uses your AC house power to warm up the battery packs. As a result you'll get better battery usage, your regen-braking will work better ... and if you do need to head to a charger, it will accept a charge faster.

I have a work-from-home job so I don't really have a recurring departure time. This means if I need to head out on a trip, I need to set a departure time (as if it would be a recurring schedule) for the date/time I plan to leave. Then... as I'm leaving I have to edit the schedule again to delete the departure time.

Wish there was a way to set a one-time scheduled departure.
I did a few tests setting the battery to charge to 100% before driving it. It did not seem to help:


Precondition test

Initial stats:

External temperature 32F

Car in unheated garage

SoC 85%

Initial HVT 44.6F

Charging at 40A (juicebox)

HV current showing only 22A

HV coolant inlet temperature 41F



I left the car charging for 25 minutes and no changes to HVT and HV coolant inlet. I drove the car for 30 minutes and notice an increase of 1.6F in the coolant. The HVT did not change. Either I selected the wrong sensor in odb2 or charging the battery with 40A will not increase the temperature. I will test again by adding a preconditioning schedule.
 

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Because Ford hasn’t updated the EPA estimates for the GTs yet. They updated the other trims, but some of the numbers don’t make a lot of sense. But it won’t really matter since the 2021s are getting the increase in usable capacity too.
Okay. Another case of misleading or just plain wrong marketing info again? I am used to filtering out misinformation in the media but still haven't figured out how to do the same with Ford's literature.
 

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Okay thanks. I don't remember that from the Ford literature but then again I didn't really pay attention to the GT specs. I thought all the 2021 models with extended battery were 88 kWh usable but apparently that isn't the case. Good to know.
2021s and 2022s have the exact same batteries. Software is limiting 21s to 88. They are getting same software as 22s.
 

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2021s and 2022s have the exact same batteries. Software is limiting 21s to 88. They are getting same software as 22s.
Yes. I get that. However, both the 2021 and 2022 GTs have the same range according to the info posted on Ford's website. The 2022 Premium, CR1 and Select have their range figures updated to account for the additional 3% usable but the GT range remains the same. If that info is to be believed, then the 2021 GTs shipped with 91 kWh usable. So that is why I find it confusing.

Perhaps there will be a range increase for the 2022 GTs and that will tidy up the loose end with the documentation?
 

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Yes. I get that. However, both the 2021 and 2022 GTs have the same range according to the info posted on Ford's website. The 2022 Premium, CR1 and Select have their range figures updated to account for the additional 3% usable but the GT range remains the same. If that info is to be believed, then the 2021 GTs shipped with 91 kWh usable. So that is why I find it confusing.

Perhaps there will be a range increase for the 2022 GTs and that will tidy up the loose end with the documentation?
Or perhaps we will never know. Not a great deal of transparency with all of this. Not sure why.
 

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Or perhaps we will never know. Not a great deal of transparency with all of this. Not sure why.
Agreed. Kinda hard to know what to believe sometimes. Probably a consequence of having access to too much information too quickly to keep it all straight and reconciled.
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