Purchasing and Programming another FOB

[machefan]

Yes includes programming.

it’s actually two Ford part numbers: the fob for $160 and the emergency key insert for $50. Must order both together. It is not a standard Ford fob as the dealer had none in stock.

Ford part numbers 164R8310 and 164R8311

At least it includes the programming

I will find out today at my service appointment. Says it was from a 2018 explorer and the main reason I chose it was because it had the ford logo so my wife and I can easily grab the right key programmed to our profile. She is barely 5'2" and I'm 6' so our seat memory is pretty different ?

Should be easy, some folks don't appear to understand that the original MME remote is used for a line of Ford's, the only different can be the logo or the button. Not all remotes work but it appears about ~57 Ford vehicles use the same FCC ID and Frequency etc.

The only heartache here is that you have to pay $200, but the dealer is just over charging you for the remote to pay for the programming. In the end it's a close wash. Should be about $150 to $175 (Buy your own, pay them to program etc)

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[RockwallRick]

My dealer has ordered me a 2nd fob, at his cost, because of the stated PAAK issues. I suspect Ford will change to 2 fobs soon.

Ours too, no arguments due to flaky PAAK problems!

 

[dw0095]

At least it includes the programming

Should be easy, some folks don't appear to understand that the original MME remote is used for a line of Ford's, the only different can be the logo or the button. Not all remotes work but it appears about ~57 Ford vehicles use the same FCC ID and Frequency etc.

The only heartache here is that you have to pay $200, but the dealer is just over charging you for the remote to pay for the programming. In the end it's a close wash. Should be about $150 to $175 (Buy your own, pay them to program etc)

If all goes to plan, I should be at $120 all in if it works this afternoon.
Finalizing the deal with my local dealer was painful and they also gave me the highest price quote to program the fob (1 hour shop rate). I just don't have it in me to fight them anymore and try to demand a second key for free. $120 bucks is worth my time and aggravation.

 

[machefan]

If all goes to plan, I should be at $120 all in if it works this afternoon.
Finalizing the deal with my local dealer was painful and they also gave me the highest price quote to program the fob (1 hour shop rate). I just don't have it in me to fight them anymore and try to demand a second key for free. $120 bucks is worth my time and aggravation.

Agreed, plus you can use your reward points for it. With the purchase of the MME comes 22,000 which is about $100 or $200 bucks (I forget).

 

[dw0095]

Mission Complete!

And it cost about half of the reward points that came with to program.

2018 ford explorer key from carandTruck remotes.com $60

 

[OldEVGuy]

I bought an extra fob from carandtruckremotes.com, and took it to a dealer today, to have it programmed. Apparently, Ford’s website/computer system, used to program the fobs, has been down all week. They‘re supposed to call me when it’s back up. They said it’s affecting every Ford dealer. I’m not sure if they’re being honest with me, or just don’t want to program the one I bought elsewhere.

 

[machefan]

I bought an extra fob from carandtruckremotes.com, and took it to a dealer today, to have it programmed. Apparently, Ford’s website/computer system, used to program the fobs, has been down all week. They‘re supposed to call me when it’s back up. They said it’s affecting every Ford dealer. I’m not sure if they’re being honest with me, or just don’t want to program one I bought elsewhere.

Only rumors like a hack or breach, but it does appear Ford is having backend issues with their systems. So it plausible for sure.

 

[methorian]

I bought an extra fob from carandtruckremotes.com, and took it to a dealer today, to have it programmed. Apparently, Ford’s website/computer system, used to program the fobs, has been down all week. They‘re supposed to call me when it’s back up. They said it’s affecting every Ford dealer. I’m not sure if they’re being honest with me, or just don’t want to program one I bought elsewhere.

It must be back up.

Just got back from my dealership having the PaaK update applied and my extra FOB programmed.

Both were done in less than an hour without issue.

 

[machefan]

It must be back up.

Just got back from my dealership having the PaaK update applied and my extra FOB programmed.

Both were done in less than an hour without issue.

Good, all visits should be alike

 

[OldEVGuy]

It must be back up.

Just got back from my dealership having the PaaK update applied and my extra FOB programmed.

Both were done in less than an hour without issue.

Right! I got a call from the dealer yesterday, saying it was back up. I’m going in Monday to have it programmed.

 

[Finkerton]

My understanding is if you remove PaaK, for instance if you got a second fob, then it also removes your ability to start the car with a password as a backup, because it's linked to PaaK. Can anyone confirm/deny?

 

[FPLiptak]

I wonder if they will give refunds for people that already bought a second one? ?

I bought mine from carandtruckremotes.com but I would still take another spare from Ford if it were free! Any guidance as to how to get another would be appreciated.

 

[machefan]

I bought mine from carandtruckremotes.com but I would still take another spare from Ford if it were free! Any guidance as to how to get another would be appreciated.

You can get one for $28 with shipping from eBay (Ford Label) and program it yourself. Why bother with the dealer and your time for $28 bucks. I’m speaking about setting up a third, not a second.

 

[FPLiptak]

You can get one for $28 with shipping from eBay (Ford Label) and program it yourself. Why bother with the dealer and your time for $28 bucks. I’m speaking about setting up a third, not a second.

If it's free. It's for me!

I thought from the beginning we should have been given TWO fobs.

 

[phidauex]

Update for the curious: Purchased this fob from eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284269197881

It does come with the blank key, and my dealer was able to program it in less than 10 minutes for $90. Seems like an easy task for $90 but whatever, at least it was fast.

It has the Mustang logo, and the only difference from the included fob is that the silkscreen for the rear hatch looks more like a trunk than a hatch, but you can only tell if they are side by side. All buttons work as expected.

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