Shouldn't my Display read 270 @100%

[67 Stang Convertible]

Specifically, you're definitely right. And they use the same software on all sorts of other automotive enthusiast sites.
I was however, trying to deter the rumor mill about Ford having a hand in this forum somehow.

Why is there a link to the "Lightening" forum if Ford is not involved here? If it is a general auto indurstry then I would imagine there would be non-ford links. Just a thought.

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[mkhuffman]

The lack of moderation and the people who think this is a myspace friend count competition (only post count) by repetitively posting and reviving dead threads drives me up a wall.

I don't mind reviving dead threads. Not sure who determines it is dead anyway. For example, I am still following a subwoofer thread and if I add one myself, I will use that thread to share my experience. It is a better place to share it because then someone looking to do the same thing can easily see all the other posts prior to mine to help them decide if they want to do the same thing.

 

[DevSecOps]

I don't mind reviving dead threads. Not sure who determines it is dead anyway. For example, I am still following a subwoofer thread and if I add one myself, I will use that thread to share my experience. It is a better place to share it because then someone looking to do the same thing can easily see all the other posts prior to mine to help them decide if they want to do the same thing.

I'm referring to one person specifically (other's have called him out as well) that will always comment on 12-24 hour old posts about range in the winter or other repetitive threads. All of those threads should be closed immediately with a link to a FAQ. Giving credence to the same questions asked repeatedly throughout the day encourages more of the same and to me it appears they just want the post count to increase because they never take time to read if the answer was already given.

In your example it's much different. That's the way it should be and proves the use of searching, which should be encouraged.

I just didn't want to go into a detailed tangent but you forced my hand.

 

[farrow32]

I appreciate the sincere responses to my posts, and frankly, those of you that have been on here maybe too long, should take a deep breath and actually READ what people are saying before you snap off with a response. I've seen the tons of responses on "range"...which is NOT what I'm talking about....and as I said, I understand your range will be reduced in cold weather. As I said, my car is NOT being driven...it's only sitting on a charger. What would have actually helped me in this forum, is if anyone can confirm if there indicator reaches 270 on the display or not. Additionally, it would help to know if you have an extended battery that hits some range estimate like 213, when it normally gets to 270, but still reads 100%. Would ask that folks that are truly here to help newer owners respond vs the non-friendlies

 

[hybrid2bev]

I appreciate the sincere responses to my posts, and frankly, those of you that have been on here maybe too long, should take a deep breath and actually READ what people are saying before you snap off with a response. I've seen the tons of responses on "range"...which is NOT what I'm talking about....and as I said, I understand your range will be reduced in cold weather. As I said, my car is NOT being driven...it's only sitting on a charger. What would have actually helped me in this forum, is if anyone can confirm if there indicator reaches 270 on the display or not. Additionally, it would help to know if you have an extended battery that hits some range estimate like 213, when it normally gets to 270, but still reads 100%. Would ask that folks that are truly here to help newer owners respond vs the non-friendlies

Will my 4X display 270+ miles at 100%, yes. But not all year-round.

Summer 100% = about 270+ miles
Winter 100% = about 215 miles

The car charges until it reaches your set percentage not until the display shows 270.

 

[Scooby24]

I appreciate the sincere responses to my posts, and frankly, those of you that have been on here maybe too long, should take a deep breath and actually READ what people are saying before you snap off with a response. I've seen the tons of responses on "range"...which is NOT what I'm talking about....and as I said, I understand your range will be reduced in cold weather. As I said, my car is NOT being driven...it's only sitting on a charger. What would have actually helped me in this forum, is if anyone can confirm if there indicator reaches 270 on the display or not. Additionally, it would help to know if you have an extended battery that hits some range estimate like 213, when it normally gets to 270, but still reads 100%. Would ask that folks that are truly here to help newer owners respond vs the non-friendlies

If you expect sincere responses maybe best not to come in and make comments like threatening a lawsuit because you don't understand how a range estimate works.

If it was a question and not an accusation, ask your question. Otherwise you show confidence in your ignorance and aren't going to be taken seriously. My two cents.

 

[Kevin P]

As I said, my car is NOT being driven...it's only sitting on a charger. What would have actually helped me in this forum, is if anyone can confirm if there indicator reaches 270 on the display or not. Additionally, it would help to know if you have an extended battery that hits some range estimate like 213, when it normally gets to 270, but still reads 100%. Would ask that folks that are truly here to help newer owners respond vs the non-friendlies

You seem to not be reading the replies. Let me try one more time. Your car charges to 100%, EXACTLY like filling up a gas tank in a regular car to FULL. It DOES NOT charge to 270 miles range. It charges to FULL. Now, given the car has some awareness of the outside temperature, AND your recent driving habits, it takes that FULL battery and runs it through an algorithm, and then literally guesstimates your actual range capability with a full battery. For you, in this weather and your recent driving habits, that is 213 miles. Multiple explanations of WHY. You are in Chicago, so the most obvious reason it is reduced is cold weather.
I myself reside near Cincinnati. I have a Mach E GT. When I last charged to 100%, the range indicated 253 miles. This is largely because the VAST majority of my driving lately is on side roads where I rarely go over 60mph, so it knows my usage is low. If I drove on the interstate at 75 or 80 all the time, the guesstimate would factor that in, and my range would probably show as 200-ish.

 

[timbop]

is if anyone can confirm if there indicator reaches 270 on the display or not

It may or may not depending on a host of factors including temperature, which is the point I tried to convey before. Right now it is unlikely to come close to showing 270m at 100% SoC, but next summer it will likely exceed that value - but it might not. It is in no way a direct measurement but a projection of what Ford's algorithm thinks you'll get in a worst case scenario.

That range estimator is called the "guess-o-meter" for a reason. It is virtually meaningless. I posted an explanation about it already and if you have been reading about range concerns from others you should have seen the same statements made frequently.

 

[dbsb3233]

Everybody keeps replying to these threads (5 pages now on this one), when all it takes is for the first person to reply with a link to one of the other threads that addresses it.

 

[generaltso]

Everybody keeps replying to these threads (5 pages now on this one), when all it takes is for the first person to reply with a link to one of the other threads that addresses it.

We‘ve tried that many times. Unfortunately, that’s not all it takes.

 

[JohnnyForensic]

I appreciate the sincere responses to my posts, and frankly, those of you that have been on here maybe too long, should take a deep breath and actually READ what people are saying before you snap off with a response. I've seen the tons of responses on "range"...which is NOT what I'm talking about....and as I said, I understand your range will be reduced in cold weather. As I said, my car is NOT being driven...it's only sitting on a charger. What would have actually helped me in this forum, is if anyone can confirm if there indicator reaches 270 on the display or not. Additionally, it would help to know if you have an extended battery that hits some range estimate like 213, when it normally gets to 270, but still reads 100%. Would ask that folks that are truly here to help newer owners respond vs the non-friendlies

I think this has been answered a couple of times in this thread at least, but let me try in a slightly different way.

The charge percentage is the amount of charge in the battery (in the portion that Ford will let you access). Maybe you charge to 90% every day (Ford recommended) or to 100% or to 80%. That doesn’t matter.

When calculating the estimated range on the dash (what we call the GOM or “Guess-O-Meter” around here) , Ford gives you a number that’s a multiplier of your current charge level times your average driving efficiency, with other tweaks thrown in regarding the weather (cold temperatures act as a negative in this calculation). This happens all the time…driving…sitting on a charger…just in your garage unplugged…whatever. The calculations are constantly being updated in view of all of the variables at any given time. For example, my car has been sitting at the body shop for three weeks, and while the charge level has barely changed, the estimated range has been fluctuating wildly because we’ve had temperatures bouncing up and down around here like a kangaroo.

So, in the Fall with nice driving, your range at 100% might be displayed as 270. If it’s even nicer, you’ve done well on your driving efficiency, and you’re not driving a lot of high speed highways, you can see 270, 280, or even 303 on the screen of a model that is EPA ranged at 270. Some of the Route 1s see over 330 on their range estimators in ideal conditions. If you’re in the Alaskan wilderness in February, your guesstimated range on the display will probably look like 170.

Some people will say to reset the driving history to see the default, but if you reset it in the summer, you might see 270. You reset it now, you might see 220, all just depending on the cold.

One thing we all seem to agree upon here is that the GOM is overly pessimistic relating to winter temps. You’ll usually actually get more range than guesstimated. It’s definitely better that way than the other, however. Also, this usually isn’t a concern at all unless you’re driving close to the edge of your range every day or going on long trips. Most people don’t as a general daily rule…they leave the house, go to work, stop at the market, and come back home with plenty of range left, but they plug in, go to bed, and wake up every morning with a ”full tank,” ready to do it again. So for all the worry about range and range estimates, a lot of it really only comes into play if you’re an outlier on the amount you commute or if you’re continually taking road trips.

 

[dbsb3233]

We‘ve tried that many times. Unfortunately, that’s not all it takes.

Because people keep making 50 replies to each one anyway, yes. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. ?

 

[dbsb3233]

I firmly believe that time will solve the problem behind the problem that so many are posting about - the concern about running out of electrons due to the cold. Recently, my wife and I drove from Denver to the crime center Los Angeles for Thanksgiving. I had thought that I would have my car by then and plotted out on ABRP the trip, with stops planned and the time impact of charging. Unfortunately, the car wasn't out of the trainyard, so we took her Q5. But, it makes me wonder if there are trips that I can make in the warmer months that I cannot in the cold because my range is lower. Now, as I said, time will solve this with more charging stations, but for right now, are others in a situation where a trip you want to take is seasonal only due the "shrinkage" in the cold?

Denver to LA is well covered with lots of redundancy, thanks to Electrify America. We've taken ours Denver to Vegas 4 times already (one into CA). The only "do or die" charger on the route is Green River UT. No good backups in range of that one. But it's always worked for us. I-70/I-15 is a great EV route.

 

[coolshades]

Everybody keeps replying to these threads (5 pages now on this one), when all it takes is for the first person to reply with a link to one of the other threads that addresses it.

why would we do that? these threads are popcorn on an otherwise dry and technical forum.

 

[dbsb3233]

I get that. But I would bet that 90% of the people with these complaints don't need the range 90% of the time.

Oh of course not, but that's not what range is (usually) for. It's for the times you need to go further (road trips). Just because road trips are far less frequent than daily commutes doesn't mean they're not important.

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