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For any one wondering why: the most recent "1/1 Mon" is 2018.How do those handwritten notes help sway you, though? They're purportedly from three years ago.
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For any one wondering why: the most recent "1/1 Mon" is 2018.How do those handwritten notes help sway you, though? They're purportedly from three years ago.
Parked for just one week??Car most likely be dead so valet so they will charge it
Or to translate to kWh, a loss of roughly 1 kWh per day.
Plus it just doesn't seem like a good use of limited resources to tie up a charger for a week. That really ought to only be allowed for short term parking (like 24 hours or less). Otherwise it's taking chargers away from others that might need them.One of the parking lots near DIA (Denver) has an option to choose covered parking and they have 12 Level 2 chargers. Their pricing is actually pretty good for covered parking and I don't think there is an extra fee for charging. unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to reserve a charger.
BUT... I doubt I will ever use it. For short trips, I wouldn't worry about losing that much charge. For longer trips, I find it is usually cheaper and more convenient to Lyft there.
back when travel existed, one of the reasons I used the off-site airport parking lot I did was they had "EV spaces" (which was just a block of eight 120V outlets with dedicated spaces for them, really). That's where I first saw a Bolt, a Volt, and each model Tesla really up close, except the Y (came out too late)... saw the Outlander PHEV, Leaf, pretty much everything you can name except a Fisker Karma (*). The Fusion Energi battery was just big enough to do the trip in summer all-EV if you took the right route, but not quite enough for winter. For me, that meant the charging was a big deal, so I could get home on all-EV or mostly-EV. The spaces almost always had at least one, and if you knew about it, there was actually one weird "secret" area on a hill not with the main spaces you could use. (**)One of the parking lots near DIA (Denver) has an option to choose covered parking and they have 12 Level 2 chargers. Their pricing is actually pretty good for covered parking and I don't think there is an extra fee for charging. unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to reserve a charger.
BUT... I doubt I will ever use it. For short trips, I wouldn't worry about losing that much charge. For longer trips, I find it is usually cheaper and more convenient to Lyft there.
I think this is probably one of the best arguments for using the slow 120 V capability of the mobile charger. If the airport parking has a 120 V outlet near a spot, you can plug in and who cares if you're only charging at 3 mph if you'll be sitting there for a week?Plus it just doesn't seem like a good use of limited resources to tie up a charger for a week. That really ought to only be allowed for short term parking (like 24 hours or less). Otherwise it's taking chargers away from others that might need them.
That's where the valet reference probably fits more. IF you're really going to need a charge in an airport lot (most shouldn't if they just plan right), then it should be just 8 hours or something. Which means someone needs to move the car, which means valet.
Personally, I think we'll just drive the Escape to DIA anyway. We usually just park in the Pikes Peak lot. We're too far out for Uber and Lyft to be cheaper. (Worry a tad about hail storms too.)
That actually makes logical sense. For long term parking, just having 120V outlets available should be sufficient (and a helluva lot cheaper). Just enough to let the vehicle slow charge so it doesn't run too low long-term. Let people use their own chargers (they're usually secure lots). For the cost of 4 L2 chargers, they could probably put in 40 120V outlets instead.back when travel existed, one of the reasons I used the off-site airport parking lot I did was they had "EV spaces" (which was just a block of eight 120V outlets with dedicated spaces for them, really).
I was just posting the same thing as you posted that.I think this is probably one of the best arguments for using the slow 120 V capability of the mobile charger. If the airport parking has a 120 V outlet near a spot, you can plug in and who cares if you're only charging at 3 mph if you'll be sitting there for a week?
you need take into count that 1. If you don’t plug car in it looses say 2 -3% charge each day just sitting. Reason is even though car is just sitting the car still in running behind scenes in something like standby mode or auxiliary mode so it can still keep batteries at ideal temps. Then shuts off again.Parked for just one week??
That's contrary to most everything I've seen.
Did you have Sentry mode turned on? I've read that drains the battery a lot faster.you need take into count that 1. If you don’t plug car in it looses say 2 -3% charge each day just sitting. Reason is even though car is just sitting the car still in running behind scenes in something like standby mode or auxiliary mode so it can still keep batteries at ideal temps. Then shuts off again.
now as I’ve only had experience with Tesla think it took 1 week to die but it was not fully charged either. So their are different scenarios that are in play. If car was fully charged it will probably still have juice left.
for example let say the car was at 50% SOC when it was parked for a week without being plugged in. Now if it is not dead I am going to guess you might have like 5% SOC left but is that enough to get to a charger?
this is why if leaving for extended amount of time if at airport you valet as they know they need to keep EVs charged up or at least keep an eye on them so they can charge them and let them know you would like to have x amount of charge when you pick car back up.
Call me cynical, but even if the outlets are within sight of a manned booth in a "secured" lot, what are the chances that a minimum wage guard would observe/decide to act/actively stop some dirtbag from stealing my mobile charger from my unattended MME?I was just posting the same thing as you posted that.
Yes, perfect use for 120V. Cost is a huge part of all this. The more costly the solution, the fewer of them that will be installed. We need to be careful not to "over-ask". We'll get more of them if they're cheaper. One whole wall of the parking structure wired with standard (far cheaper) 120V outlets is all it should take for most people's needs.
The plug part locks into the car when the doors are locked. That wouldn't stop someone from unplugging it from the outlet, but at least at PHL the lots are big an nondescript. And most people are just shuffling to/from their cars. And you really have to be parking there you can't easily just walk by.Call me cynical, but even if the outlets are within sight of a manned booth in a "secured" lot, what are the chances that a minimum wage guard would observe/decide to act/actively stop some dirtbag from stealing my mobile charger from my unattended MME?
No idea what the copper in the cable is worth, but it's certainly nonzero. Also, people steal stuff they don't even want/need and cannot easily sell just because they can.
The only way I would consider this is if the cable & charger could be locked together and the cable locked to the car.
Even if the cable was not stolen, it could be unplugged (accidentally or on purpose) and then you come back to a near-empty battery.
Wondering if anal-retentive should be hyphenated (asking for a friend).
Have we seen that the AC plug locks to the car in any review? The owners manual only refers to the vehicle locking the plug during DC charging, making me think the locking pin is not used during AC charging.The plug part locks into the car when the doors are locked. That wouldn't stop someone from unplugging it from the outlet, but at least at PHL the lots are big an nondescript. And most people are just shuffling to/from their cars. And you really have to be parking there you can't easily just walk by.
I don't know that for a fact with AC charging, so I guess it requires testing... If only I had my car to test on ?Have we seen that the AC plug locks to the car in any review? The owners manual only refers to the vehicle locking the plug during DC charging, making me think the locking pin is not used during AC charging.