Virtually impossible to brake smoothly

[Garbone]

Me too; I hardly ever use the brakes, so I don't have much to say about them. Yes, they are a bit 'grabby', but 1PD deceleration is extremely smooth and reliable. 1PD is now implanted so firmly in my brain that I have a hard time driving ICE vehicles and I despise having to use brakes in the conventional way.

Same same.. Right on target.

Since I now know the floor it with the brake on drag racing trick I imagine that is the most I use the brake for besides starting the car.

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[Poki]

Chiming in to say that the creaky brakes are the only thing about the MME's drivability that bugs me. The creaking sound makes the car feel so rickety.

Other than that, I am madly in love with this car. So fun to drive!

 

[Motomax]

When I test drove one a couple times I did notice the brakes to be a little inconsistent in the travel. From my understanding, the brake pedal uses regen first before applying the brake pads and there’s kind of a dead spot in the transition at least at low speeds.

 

[Scarpia]

My 3rd EV + 1 Pedal = No issues whatsoever.

 

[iankellogg]

literally every poster saying they have issues with the brakes is because its a new car that doesn't have its brakes bedded yet.

 

[Carsinmyblood]

I drove my wife's MME last week and found the same thing. It was impossible to avoid rocking the car at full stop while modulating the brake pedal.

All the way down to baby crawl, then a lurch at the end.

 

[Carsinmyblood]

literally every poster saying they have issues with the brakes is because its a new car that doesn't have its brakes bedded yet.

Nope. We've all driven cars that are new and cars with a fresh brake job. They all have a mechanical connection to the brake fluid and a tactile feel for the pressure in the system.

This is a completely different system. The MME grabs the brakes while standing still, this replaces the automatic transmission's static drag that would normally hold the car from rolling backwards on a hill.

On flat level ground in an ICE car the brakes are released on flat ground when you take your foot off the brake pedal. The MME applies them.

You get the grab and lurch no matter how gentle you are with the brake pedal.

 

[Carsinmyblood]

I personally find brakes to be adequate. What I do not like is back and forth motion when you stop. I hate this car rocks back and forth every time you stop.

Exactly.

 

[DaMeatMan]

Why not? We switched to 1 pedal and haven't gone back specifically because the braking is so predictable.

I guess I'm just old fashioned and I like being able to take my foot off the accelerator for a bit of a rest while allowing the vehicle to coast for a bit before easing onto the breaks to come to a stop.

Engaged feels like the most natural coasting and is most familiar to me. Whisper wants to coast for days with no regen at all, while Unbridled seems much closer to 1 pedal drive where the regen is pretty aggressive but doesn't come to a full stop.

I guess my gripe is that Ford added these different drive modes for a reason, to appeal to widest driving audience possible. With that said, I should be able to use the mode I'm most familiar with and not have my breaks make creaking sounds when easing into a gentle stop, nor should I have to make more aggressive stops to avoid that creak sound right at the end of the stop.

With any ICE car I've ever driven braking is just a mindless task that u don't need to put any effort into coming to a smooth gradual stop, and your foot is directly connected to the hydraulic system.

But what I experience with the Mach-E feels more like an ICE vehicle after it's been sitting in the rain for a bit, has a bit of rust on the rotors and is far more "grabby" with the occasional thunk or creak as it "let's go". Which affects your ability to smoothly role out while on the breaks, or smoothly coast to a stop while easing tension onto the breaks, and usually results in a very similar "creaking" sound. Basically feels like it's grabbing and doesn't want to friction slide, but more of a grab and let go followed by a creaking or low pitched squeal as it's letting go.

It's a really difficult thing to verbally explain, but maybe I'll post a video later this week.

Someone posted a link to a tire rack article about "Brake bed in procedure", and I feel like that be worthwhile for me to try. Because despite the title of this post, it's not that I can't come to a smooth stop. But more that I can't come to a smooth stop without hearing that damn brake creak noise, and that sounds like a material friction issue that wants to grab more than it wants to slide with friction resulting in the sounds I'm hearing.

I guess the best way to describe it is coming to a stop and slowly letting off the breaks just enough that you creep forward like your in a drive through (while also keeping slight tension on the brakes) results in all kinds of embarrassing creaking sounds.

 

[Scooby24]

Exactly.

That's the tires, I'm certain of it. Had coilovers on Foresters with stock sized tires and the stiffer suspension due to the weight of the vehicle with larger tires causes a whole lot of wobble coming to a stop. Lower profile tires with stiffer sidewalls and more pressure remedied that on my Foresters.

 

[DaMeatMan]

Nope. We've all driven cars that are new and cars with a fresh brake job. They all have a mechanical connection to the brake fluid and a tactile feel for the pressure in the system.

This is a completely different system. The MME grabs the brakes while standing still, this replaces the automatic transmission's static drag that would normally hold the car from rolling backwards on a hill.

On flat level ground in an ICE car the brakes are released on flat ground when you take your foot off the brake pedal. The MME applies them.

You get the grab and lurch no matter how gentle you are with the brake pedal.

Yes exactly! ?

Glad to know I'm not alone here. I've been driving this car for 6 months, and it's definitely not for lack of trying, and any "break-in" of the pads and rotors should have happened by now with over 6000km on the odometer.

It just seems like a very "unrefined" blend of friction braking to me right towards the end of the stop.

 

[DaMeatMan]

Chiming in to say that the creaky brakes are the only thing about the MME's drivability that bugs me. The creaking sound makes the car feel so rickety.

Other than that, I am madly in love with this car. So fun to drive!

Same! I have no other major gripes with this car and absolutely love it! The creaking feels like such a basic issue to have on such a high end vehicle which bugs me even more though lol.

 

[TRP]

Brakes felt very "touchy" at first. I did get used to gently applying them and the "touchy" evened out. Then I tried 1PD...................never looked back. Took, like, 2 minutes to get used to it. Love it

 

[phidauex]

I haven't noticed any issues with smooth braking, both with and without 1PD. However, I'm coming from a 2006 Prius which was one of the first models with blended regen/friction braking, and while they did a great job, it was still 15 years ago and the transition between regen and friction is much more noticable - you can brake smoothly with practice, but you feel the system "pull" the brake pedal out from under your foot a bit which can be slightly unnerving at first.

By comparison the MME seems very smooth, with a more natural transition between modes. However, it still doesn't feel quite like a "normal" car with hydraulic only brakes.

 

[mtxpert]

I drive unbridled 1 pedal 24/7 and love how I can module with just slight feather touch to the brakes or hard push as I corner. I definitely push the car pretty hard with the new wheel/tire setup.

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