When or will GT/PE 5 Second limit be lifted by OTA

[HuntingPudel]

The only reason I want to see it lifted is so that I never have to read another post about it! Almost as bad as range! Seriously though I hope it is lifted in the new year after the Rally comes out. When the Rally rolls out, and if it is lifted on the Rally, then the programming should be available to go out OTA.
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I agree that if the software is available to production cars, it should be available shortly after via OTA. In practice, Ford has shown us that this is not the case. They have been shipping electronic frunk releases in production cars since July of 2021. There is still no OTA for it after nearly 2-1/4 years. I’m hopeful that Ford will put together an OTA, but I surely will not count on it. ?‍?

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[Mach1E]

This is the most well reasoned response on this thread. Close the voting. The correct answer Is right here.

Luckily the frunk button release schedule is the exception, not the rule when it comes to updates for this car.

But I thought many got it OTA a month ago.

Even more lucky is the fact that the promises weren’t tweeted out by Musk. The time from “tweet to rollout” is measured easier in years and decades than months.

 

[Mach1E]

I agree that if the software is available to production cars, it should be available shortly after via OTA.

This really depends on the answer to an important question-

Will the 2024 have hardware changes?

We know the Rally has a new rear motor, so if the 2024 GT does as well, it’ll have some software differences too.

My hope is that all the testing and preparation they did for the 2021-2023 power increase is completely independent from any 2024 changes.

Maybe the best question is- WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR? They’ve had 2 years. Push the dang button!

 

[blkadr08]

I believe they are concerned it would dramatically increase the HJBV failures; which does nothing but cost them money to fix. So, even though I think it is ridiculous, I don't think that will get lifted. As they figure the car out, the future ones just won't have the limit. But you bought the car with the limit in place; so, from Ford's perspective, why risk it.

The only way the fact that we bought our cars with the five second limit would provide Ford with any guidance would be if we KNOWINGLY bought the cars that way, which the vast majority of us didn’t.

I won’t even consider another MME with the limit.

 

[azerik]

There's no option for "Next model refresh".
I expect that limit to never be raised, lest not for any current owners.

 

[HuntingPudel]

The only way the fact that we bought our cars with the five second limit would provide Ford with any guidance would be if we KNOWINGLY bought the cars that way, which the vast majority of us didn’t.

I won’t even consider another MME with the limit.

I reserved and ordered my car without knowledge of the limit. The limit has become common knowledge in this forum prior to my purchase. @0t60-3.5 was the first delivery of a GT-PE and he pretty promptly tested his car and found the limit. So, I did know about the limit, but I was hoping that it would go away. ?‍?

 

[SWO]

The basis is we ain’t seen shit yet, and there’s no concrete date given. It’s all speculation from both sides. Regardless of what a man called Darren says. ?

We have Ford's EV chief saying they have tested the car, can extend it, and will send it to existing vehicles via OTA. Not conjecture.

 

[azerik]

We have Ford's EV chief saying they have tested the car, can extend it, and will send it to existing vehicles via OTA. Not conjecture.

Who's HVJB gets to test that OTA out?

 

[SWO]

Who's HVJB gets to test that OTA out?

Ford....over the last year?

 

[azerik]

You're kidding right? (Unless there's something in EA that oddly hasn't leaked out to the public)
ForD, tested A car and think they can just push it out? Yet many a car with the 'new and improved' board is back in the dealers arms getting that same board replaced possibly several times. And they havn't even possibly raised that 5 second limit for those lucky contestants.

I'm not sure why you would think Ford is spending any time at all testing a higher limit. They have all the data they need already from failed cars. I highly doubt there is any kind of continued research on this car. Next years selling point for the MME isn't going to be "And now with a little bit longer limit." Hell even the 0-60 times were fibbed.

You have a lot of faith in them I guess. I don't.

A better DCFC curve will happen before the 5 second limit becomes 5.8 seconds.

 

[Mach1E]

You're kidding right? (Unless there's something in EA that oddly hasn't leaked out to the public)
ForD, tested A car and think they can just push it out? Yet many a car with the 'new and improved' board is back in the dealers arms getting that same board replaced possibly several times. And they havn't even possibly raised that 5 second limit for those lucky contestants.

I'm not sure why you would think Ford is spending any time at all testing a higher limit. They have all the data they need already from failed cars. I highly doubt there is any kind of continued research on this car. Next years selling point for the MME isn't going to be "And now with a little bit longer limit." Hell even the 0-60 times were fibbed.

You have a lot of faith in them I guess. I don't.

A better DCFC curve will happen before the 5 second limit becomes 5.8 seconds.

You seem to relate the 5 sec limit with HVJB failures.

I have seen zero evidence of this.

Tons of failures on the forum, but unless I missed it, have not ONCE seen a “had to get towed from the drag strip,” or “was doing a high speed run and my HVJB failed……”

More importantly we haven’t heard of anyone breaking anything else on the car because of “too much power.”

Ford said they tested it and will give us more power. I’ll take it!

0-60 times weren’t fibbed either. GT beats 3.8 and the GTPE can get 3.5 with traction. I’ve even seen a 3.4 on a sticky drag strip.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

We have Ford's EV chief saying they have tested the car, can extend it, and will send it to existing vehicles via OTA. Not conjecture.

Yep. I know. No date. Darren says.

 

[BigMach-E]

I am with @Mach1E here, HVJB failures don’t really seem to correlate with WOT until limiter is hit. It’s honestly not a matter of having faith in Ford, it’s more so a statement that Ford better take care of this for existing owners, or they likely won’t have repeat customers.

 

[Rydak81]

That’s crazy I guess I am the only one that doesn’t have this 5 second limit everyone is talking about…..?

 

[buzznwood]

I am with @Mach1E here, HVJB failures don’t really seem to correlate with WOT until limiter is hit. It’s honestly not a matter of having faith in Ford, it’s more so a statement that Ford better take care of this for existing owners, or they likely won’t have repeat customers.

Ford have had two years to address the issue and have done nothing, does that mean I think they will not increase the limit, of course not but Ford PR have been be writing checks that the engineering hasn't be able to cash for the whole of the GT/GTPE life.

Next year they will continue that underwhelming trend and add some rally lipstick to the performance pig. I suspect at that point what ever tweaks to the limit will then be OTA to the rest of the GT/GTPE fleet so a nice bonus for those of us that will solider on with the GT/GTPE but with 600bhp hyundias and a host of other performance EVs on the way I suspect that for the people that are truly after a performance EV the Ford ship has already sailed and sunk a long time ago.

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