Will Premium Mach-E models get the new LPF batteries?

[RedStallion]

Batteries weigh more and much less range.

There are many differences, but the most relevant cons are lower power density (thus you need larger battery), lower voltage, and their range drops faster in cold weather.

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[moparguy]

All standard range packs built from now on (>2023.5) will be LFP. Which will be available in Select and Premium trims.



Should be any day now...



Says the guy with 3x Mach-E's in his photo...

Exactly, the guy with 3x Mach-Es in his photo, listen to his opinion because he's obviously a guy who invested heavily in this shit box, so if he's disappointed then it means something ....

 

[AKgrampy]

Exactly, the guy with 3x Mach-Es in his photo, listen to his opinion because he's obviously a guy who invested heavily in this shit box, so if he's disappointed then it means something ....

Not suggesting to get one or not but 15 months and zero problems so not all are bad just as not all dealers are bad. Shop around is always sage advice though.

 

[Logal727]

While I don't know about which model has a new battery or will get that but I can recommend you to run away from the Mach E as fast as you can, this car was outdated the day it was announced, slow fast charging, tons of software issues with various stuff inside the car, long service times with most of the dealers in the nation, many issues with few qualified techs to troubleshoot, bad resale value.
I recommend you get a Tesla, you are buying a technology not really the car and Ford isn't the best, if you happen to be an anti-Tesla guy, then get a Kia or a Hyundai they are the next good thing after Tesla.

then wtf are you still here

 

[Logal727]

Exactly, the guy with 3x Mach-Es in his photo, listen to his opinion because he's obviously a guy who invested heavily in this shit box, so if he's disappointed then it means something ....

sorry about your luck I guess, some of us haven't had issues, we know they aren't perfect, but neither are the other brands

 

[MikeATX]

Will you DC charge frequently and keep your car past the 8 year warranty?

If not, then the new battery is all downsides.

From another thread- “My vote is that if you live anywhere with an actual winter, stay as far away from LFP as you can unless you just want a local runabout. It will be heavier, slower, have a longer stopping distance, and have substantially less range, especially in the cold.”

I probably will get a Level 2 charger in my garage. Sorry for a newbie question, but is that considered DC charging? I likely won't use public Level 3 fast chargers all that often.

I do tend to keep cars for a long time (14 years in my current vehicle), but it's not clear to me if that will continue to be the norm.

 

[RickMachE]

I probably will get a Level 2 charger in my garage. Sorry for a newbie question, but is that considered DC charging? I likely won't use public Level 3 fast chargers all that often.

I do tend to keep cars for a long time (14 years in my current vehicle), but it's not clear to me if that will continue to be the norm.

No, that is AC charging. All in-home charging, no matter the speed, is AC charging.

Most people use DC fast charging when they travel.

Check your utility for discounted level 2 chargers, or rebates for buying specific brands / models.

I happen to like JuiceBox 48s (I have 2 and share a circuit).

 

[MikeATX]

No, that is AC charging. All in-home charging, no matter the speed, is AC charging.

Most people use DC fast charging when they travel.

Check your utility for discounted level 2 chargers, or rebates for buying specific brands / models.

I happen to like JuiceBox 48s (I have 2 and share a circuit).

Thanks, this was very helpful.

 

[Teslaeata]

I probably will get a Level 2 charger in my garage. Sorry for a newbie question, but is that considered DC charging? I likely won't use public Level 3 fast chargers all that often.

I do tend to keep cars for a long time (14 years in my current vehicle), but it's not clear to me if that will continue to be the norm.

My experience of Mach-e & EV use is fairly wide and extensive now and is generally a happy one as a user, a vehicle examiner and Level 4 EV Technician.

I’d ignore most of the EV press.

Was watching some EV press on UK TV last night and thought some journos are lukewarm at best when reporting matters of EV, some are blatant anti EV propagandists and just should not be expressing their unrealistic “opinions” even if based upon their limited and half-arsed attempt at EV usage given their responsibility to educate & inform, most or all are uninformed at best and their expertise is limited by their lack of experience.

Got to thinking that I don’t even think about using the car until I get up to drive it on my day trips which can range between 200 miles and, rarely thankfully, 925 miles.

Never think about charging while I’m out on road until I actually need to find a charge point or where I’ll get c25% of my charges I need when out on the road such is my confidence in the car, the charging infrastructure and the excellent charge point network providers’ apps which are very good at showing location and real-time availability.

Never queue, never turn up at out-of-order charge points, always confident I’ll get a charge when I need and about EV use in general with nearly 63,000 miles of use in 2 years under my belt.

Don’t even think about running out of charge and don’t experience any more issues with Mach-e than I have with any car I’ve owned & used.

I have now bought nearly 20,000kWH of charge power either from home AC charger or public DC units.

My advice is get yourself fixed up at home with the biggest and most powerful home charger you can to future-proof yourself.

L2 if you can.

In UK, for example, at home I have an ABB 415V 22kW 32A charge point though the MME can only take 11kW so am ready for a more power hungry EV if I ever change the car which I aim to run into the ground while ever the range holds up which it seems to be doing ATM.

Just enjoy your EV & MME experience and don’t spoil it by overthinking matters of EV, you’ll love it!

 

[Mach-Lee]

I do tend to keep cars for a long time (14 years in my current vehicle), but it's not clear to me if that will continue to be the norm.

If you want the battery to last that long, try to keep it below 70% most of the time. Be aware that the battery could lose up to 40% range in 15 years due to calendar aging of the cells. This effect is much less in LFP cells, which is a better choice for long-term ownership.

 

[4sallypat]

I would love to trade for the LFP version if I could (that train has left with what I paid/less credits now).

You can have it charged always to 100% and folks feel LFP is a safer chemistry in general (me included).

Same here - would love the LFP batteries for my SR Premium I bought last month.

I live in a warm climate year around and charge to 100% every week so it makes sense for me.

 

[Mach1E]

If you want the battery to last that long, try to keep it below 70% most of the time. Be aware that the battery could lose up to 40% range in 15 years due to calendar aging of the cells. This effect is much less in LFP cells, which is a better choice for long-term ownership.

Kinda depends though.

The LFP Mach E starts with less range.

So while it may lose less range 12 years from now…… it starts with significantly less.

If range concerned, probably better off with the long range model anyways.

If buying used and only looking at SR models, I could understand wanting the LFP battery.

 

[LincolnLuvr]

Looking forward to the new LMFP battery tech from CATL. A Mach-E with that battery would have a huge range.

 

[GuliblGuy]

Thanks, this was very helpful.

It appears your utility offers some nice incentives

https://austinenergy.com/green-power/plug-in-austin/home-charging

 

[MikeATX]

It appears your utility offers some nice incentives

https://austinenergy.com/green-power/plug-in-austin/home-charging

Unfortunately, I'm in Austin, but not an Austin Energy customer! But I will look into what my utility provider is offering.

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