Safety Recall 22S41 - 2021-2022 Mach E - HVBJB Recall [high voltage battery main contactors may overheat]

[captcrunch11]

I just got a text stating that my Mach-E has been restricted. Not sure what this means since my build date is 7/11, and is not part of the recall.

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[timbop]

Your assumption that you understand either problem better than he is deeply flawed.

Let it go, Indiana

 

[FLmac]

Or the cars made after 5/25 are sitting in a field or parking lot down in Mexico waiting for updated parts to be put on....with updated software.

Has anybody on this forum taken delivery of a car made on 5/25 or later?

Could be like all the F-150 Lightnings in parking lots around Dearborn and Romulus that are on "chip hold".

Mike

It hasn’t been long enough for it to physically get to anyone at this point. I have a 5/16 build and it’s on a train to FL with original ETA of the week of 6/26. Most of the 5/25 builds have been held up and are just getting running and showing modules in the last day or so.

 

[AlpaChino]

It will be hard to make people believe this wouldn't include (more) artificial power limits.
With that, we will definitely have two classes of cars out there: built before 5/25/2022 and after, with the applicable market value reflections. If someone doesn't have the car included in the hardware recall, I can see some people going crazy to "force" the issue to manifest itself.

You're obviously very hurt about the 5 second limit, and your baseless speculation is coming across as pushing an agenda, hoping to drum up more outrage in the process.


We don't need that here. Unless you have evidence I'd consider removing your post.

 

[Mike G]

I just got a text stating that my Mach-E has been restricted. Not sure what this means since my build date is 7/11, and is not part of the recall.

Your car now has to sit in the "bold corner" in timeout wearing a funny hat. That's what THAT means. It's been a naughty monkey obviously!

Mike

 

[MG101]

So the assumption here is that so much current is flowing through the contactors which is getting them so hot they're welding themselves together? I'm guessing they're copper...that stuff needs to be like 2kish degrees to melt, no? Barring piss poor engineering there's no way that's happening.

Those here who claim to know what the cause js are being coy for whatever reason...so my best guess is an arcing issue.
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[billy_at]

Pure speculation.

Evergreen post.

 

[rcechinel]

You're obviously very hurt about the 5 second limit, and your baseless speculation is coming across as pushing an agenda, hoping to drum up more outrage in the process.


We don't need that here. Unless you have evidence I'd consider removing your post.

Lol, are you kidding me? I don't even have a GT. I'm still waiting for my car to be built (Premium AWD ER). I have zero emotions about this and I'm playing out scenarios because, you know, that's what we do here.
I don't think my speculation is baseless, since we know:
1- There is a new part, with a new part number for new and fixed cars (at dealers)
2- We are hearing Ford execs saying this will be a software update type of a recall for many of the cars

So, doing 2 without doing 1 will make some people think their cars are not really fixed. Because if it's only a software update, why bother with developing a new part? Unless it's determined that SR and RWD are not prone to this issue.

 

[mikeinet]

Here's some more confirmation...

"Here are the main details in the recall notice we filed with NHTSA, which should be on their website. Please note it is not a stop sale. Dealer can still sell. They just can’t deliver the vehicle. No different than any other safety recall notice. It is a delivery hold.

On affected vehicles, Direct Current (“DC”) fast charging and repeated wide open pedal events can cause the high voltage battery main contactors to overheat. Overheating may lead to arcing and deformation of the electrical contact surfaces, which can result in a contactor that remains open or a contactor that welds closed. An overheated contactor that opens while driving can result in a loss of motive power, which can increase the risk of an accident.

The remedy for this program is a Secondary On-Board Diagnostic Control Module (SOBDMC) and Battery Energy Control Module (BECM) software update. Ford is anticipated to begin Over-The-Air (OTA) deployment to update the SOBDMC an BECM software for affected vehicles next month. Alternatively, owners will have the option to take their vehicle to a Ford or Lincoln dealer to complete the software update.

There are no open investigations with NHTSA.

This action affects 48,924 vehicles in the U.S."

So looks like limit DC charging and stop flooring it...
Source; https://insideevs.com/news/592075/ford-mustang-mache-safety-recall-stop-sale/

 

[mdpmdp]

Those here who claim to know what the cause js are being coy for whatever reason

From what I've read, they are bound by an NDA, so not "for whatever reason"

 

[Neil4Real]

Lol, are you kidding me? I don't even have a GT. I'm still waiting for my car to be built (Premium AWD ER). I have zero emotions about this and I'm playing out scenarios because, you know, that's what we do here.
I don't think my speculation is baseless, since we know:
1- There is a new part, with a new part number for new and fixed cars (at dealers)
2- We are hearing Ford execs saying this will be a software update type of a recall for many of the cars

So, doing 2 without doing 1 will make some people think their cars are not really fixed. Because if it's only a software update, why bother with developing a new part? Unless it's determined that SR and RWD are not prone to this issue.

You're assuming people are going to look into this like that lol. You're just wrong right off the bat, they'll take their car in, dealer will say just software and they'll go on their way. Plenty of recalls say "dealer will inspect blah blah and based off that will do XX." Engine recall, dealer check for leaking oil, if none, do this to prevent it from leaking. People don't then go, wait, I still want my entire engine rebuilt, that's bullocks!

You're also speculating way too much and constantly saying you know they're related, then you aren't sure, then blah, blah. Saying you KNOW and then saying they're just scenarios is making everything so convoluted.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Lol, are you kidding me? I don't even have a GT. I'm still waiting for my car to be built (Premium AWD ER). I have zero emotions about this and I'm playing out scenarios because, you know, that's what we do here.
I don't think my speculation is baseless, since we know:
1- There is a new part, with a new part number for new and fixed cars (at dealers)
2- We are hearing Ford execs saying this will be a software update type of a recall for many of the cars

So, doing 2 without doing 1 will make some people think their cars are not really fixed. Because if it's only a software update, why bother with developing a new part? Unless it's determined that SR and RWD are not prone to this issue.

 

[Mathington]

Here's some more confirmation...


So looks like limit DC charging and stop flooring it...
Source; https://insideevs.com/news/592075/ford-mustang-mache-safety-recall-stop-sale/

So....no road trips or spirited driving?

 

[billy_at]

1- There is a new part, with a new part number for new and fixed cars (at dealers)

Uh, I don’t think we know this at all?

 

[Mathington]

It will be hard to make people believe this wouldn't include (more) artificial power limits.
With that, we will definitely have two classes of cars out there: built before 5/25/2022 and after, with the applicable market value reflections. If someone doesn't have the car included in the hardware recall, I can see some people going crazy to "force" the issue to manifest itself.

I was thinking the same thing and wondered how a software update would address an overheating issue on a connector that probably wouldn't have any active cooling.

I hope that the software update isn't going to limit the charging or power output at all :S

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