2023 Mach-E Price Increases Substantially! 💰

[Khalil]

Ah so you want heated things, then get a premium

Hahaha no need to be mean…im just shocked thats it…

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[snowdoggie]

Hahaha no need to be mean…im just shocked thats it…

I am not mean I do not need the heated stuff but I hear ya, we'll see when they do the private deals I wonder what offers I get I hope it is not a joke

 

[Khalil]

I am not mean I do not need the heated stuff but I hear ya, we'll see when they do the private deals I wonder what offers I get I hope it is not a joke

I hope too…to give you more details, i live in Canada, the temperature where i live can go up to -45 degrees celcius in winter ! Heated stuffs are kind of mandatory here !

 

[snowdoggie]

I hope too…to give you more details, i live in Canada, the temperature where i live can go up to -45 degrees celcius in winter ! Heated stuffs are kind of mandatory here !

Seems you're forced into GT or Premium, watched a vid on the trims

 

[Caulk-E]

Wow, what a hike. Imo, the group that really wins with this news is Volkswagen. With ID4s starting to come off the line in Tennessee and eligible for the tax rebate, I think they are going to move a lot of product with a starting MSRP of $37,495. I much prefer the Mach E, but that's a 10K difference in starting MSRP. Glad I got the Mach E when I did, I'm sure others here are feeling the same.

Rising component costs don't just hit Ford and Tesla. It affects every EV manufacturer. I expect ID4 price increases to come very shortly. Speaking of which, I'll be placing my ID4 order tomorrow to lock in prices before the increase.

 

[Caulk-E]

I hope too…to give you more details, i live in Canada, the temperature where i live can go up to -45 degrees celcius in winter ! Heated stuffs are kind of mandatory here !

I worked in downtown Montreal for a little over a year in 2009. During the winters, I would quickly scurry like a cockroach down the underground maze to traverse the city. Quite the memorable experience. Walking above ground was not an option. It was so cold your face would peel off. The Québécois are tough when it comes to freezing temperatures I'll give them that.

 

[Caulk-E]

I guess prices must be lower here in NJ. I have Job 2 '21 Red Premium Ext Battery AWD w/ 3500 miles. Just Put my info in and it was $57,500. I have a '22 on the way so maybe I should go down to my parents house in Austin and have them price it from there!

You're not alone. I have a Job 2 2021 Extended Battery RWD Premium with less mileage and got offered $57,852. Apparently demand is outstripping supply in Austin.

 

[Caulk-E]

Most of the GT dudes here brag about their 280-290 miles of range, I hardly doubt they will utilize any of the performance features in both cars to be honest but for me the GTPE is comparable to the MYP since they have similar 0-60, the adaptive suspension for me is asking for more trouble down the road, expensive stuff that will break so I'd rather not have it, I think the ride is better on the MYP than my GT, the PE maybe is better but with the recent price hike it's not worth it anymore, for me, if Tesla qualify for the $7500 in 2023, it becomes a no brainer going that route, the technology is better.

Yeah, but Elon will never let you keep that money. If Tesla qualifies for the $7,500, you can bet the MYP price will increase by $7,500.

 

[Caulk-E]

This is a hugely disappointing announcement from @Ford Motor Company. EV prices need to be trending in the other direction. I sincerely hope this is because of the crazy lithium market and not just a cynical cash grab.

Why should EVs be trending in the other direction when literally everything in the world is getting more expensive due to inflation. LOL

 

[Caulk-E]

66k for a premium awd er? That seems like a stretch. Pricing like the Y without the tesla network (yes yes they'll "open" it, will believe it when I charge at one) seems like a lose on the Ford side. Similarly, even with a federal rebate, being a few thousand over a faster charging I5/EV6 also seems like a hard sell.

I mean by all means keep it up, I'm happy to have a higher resale value...

I think there's some value to be realized for your EV to *not* be a Tesla. 66% of EVs are teslas. In the Bay Area, I see them everywhere. When I decided to get a Mach-E, a big part of my reasoning was I didn't want a car that half my neighbors had in their garage.

 

[Caulk-E]

Except that's not true. Take a look at the prices.

A Mach E GTPE is $76k.
Lyriq AWD is $64k.
A very well equipped quad motor R1S large battery with about 320 mile range is only $79k.
The Macan EV is predicted to start in the $70k-$80k range.
The only vehicle I listed starting above $80 is the iX.

All of those vehicles have comparable or better performance and features that a similarly prices Mach E.

The Mach E is now squarely in the price range of higher end luxury brand vehicles, which will make it very hard for the Mach E to compete.

I'm not knocking the Mach E. I bought one of the first ones. I have a premium AWD ER, which was a deal at the time I bought it.

There was virtually no competition at the time outside of Tesla.

Times have changed.

The competition is heating up, and I don't think the Mach E will do well at these prices. Perhaps the lower end Mach Es will find a niche in the market, but I can't fathom the GTPE doing well at its current price range.

I see your assessment. I think the one thing overlooked here is the rising components costs are not unique to Ford and Tesla. They affect all EV manufacturers. I think you will find very soon that those other cars you listed will get a 15%-20% price increase. There's no way that a Cadillac Lyriq, with that amazing interior, MSRPs for the same price as a Mach-E Premium ER RWD. For those that have already reserved a Lyriq, yes, they'll get the lower price. But for reservation holders of 2024 models, big price increases are coming.

 

[Caulk-E]

Wait for the Macan, it may be what you want, although I am afraid of what they may charge

Not looking forward to paying $325 for an additional cup holder

 

[Reign of Ravens]

So lesson for anyone ordering. If you don’t want to pay MSRP, negotiate a better price (like we have for the 48 of the last 50 years, remember that?).

And if you can’t get a better price or a price you’re willing to pay…… wait or buy something else are your only choices.

I have heard of some places where Mach-E's sit for a while before the get sold... I wonder if you're in one of them? For my area, you're damn lucky if you can even buy at MSRP. Haggle below MSRP? The first time I saw a Mach-E in person the dealer laughed as he told me about the guy before me, who had offered $100 below MSRP. A measly $100 off. Do you know how many people were in line to be called to look over this vehicle? I passed on it and did my own order, but that car was gone the next day. $7,600 ADM. Haggle below MSRP? Why would dealers even bother?

I've read your posts before about how fixed pricing and buying direct from the manufacturer benefits only the manufacturer. In normal times, maybe. These days? Heck with it, let me sign for that price right away when I accept the order and be done with it (which my dealer would not allow me to do). I hate these games. It's a waste of my time and I'm more likely to get screwed than to get a deal. And with car companies reportedly liking the idea of more custom orders and less inventory on hand, don't expect this situation to change within the next few years - if it changes at all.

Apart from the price increases, I find myself most bothered by the idea that the 360 camera requires a subscription after 90 days with some trims. I really hate this philosophy for features like this.

BMW tried this twice, once for wireless CarPlay in the USA and then I think for heated seats in Korea. All car companies trying to make features on the car into a subscription service need to be shamed hard.

Self-driving technologies are the one possible exception... so long as they're undergoing active development, and possibly if they take on some of the liability if there were to be a crash.

 

[BigMach-E]

I think the fact that we are seeing such a gulf between the price of the standard battery and the extended range may indicate that they are swapping the chemistry to LFP for standard range immediately. Just like they said they were going to.do it in model year 2024, but it might not be a phase in process, just a hard line.

 

[Guss-E 2021]

I wonder how high prices can go before demand starts to fade. Rising rates are already affecting housing starts. Coworker canceled her order for a new build and was one of many in the subdivision to do so. Rates are set to rise again I believe. Not a great time to finance an extra $5-$8K.

I'm hoping that when the dust settles on January 1st, the new law will make solar a financially viable option. Free home charging would go a long towards my car paying for itself. Electrical rates are rising or have risen in New England. The tax credits and a solar option might be what's needed to keep the idea of switching to a BEV attractive. Going to be an interesting 12 months.

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