Post here if you have an active FDRS account and are willing to look up info for others

[21st Century Pony]

Ahh... thanks.

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[raphael]

Actually OTA 4.1.3 would be "-LCE"....."-LKA" is the next update after OTA 4.1.3.

"-LKA" is so new it hasn't even been pushed out as an OTA yet.

I'm pretty sure the reason you don't have the new APIM update is completely up to the EU and Ford (same for UK and Ford). There is something in their process that is keeping them from releasing this update over there.

Thanks Mike for this information.

I don't understand it either. If Ford would be a bit more transparent about the whole update process it would be much easier for everybody. Providing changelogs and using an numbering scheme for the updates which actually makes sense would be a great start ?
It would also help, if they would provide an early access program for software updates in the EU like you have in the US. I would be glad to participate in something like this an help them to improve the car via my feedback.

 

[delley94]

Well I’d try that PMI on the gateway.

Finally had a chance to try the GWM PMI and I keep getting this error after 3 attempts:

 

[Mike G]

Finally had a chance to try the GWM PMI and I keep getting this error after 3 attempts:

I'm thinking you'll have to go in to the dealer. They will probably have to replace your gateway.

 

[delley94]

I'm thinking you'll have to go in to the dealer. They will probably have to replace your gateway.

Well, that is not what I hoped for... Time to get an appointment.

Thanks for all the help though!

 

[Cesaarel]

Hi @Mike G, last time you checked my vin this it what it returned. Can you check my vin again to see if my car has completed any updates behind the scenes?

3FMTK3R75NMA19684

 

[Mike G]

Hi @Mike G, last time you checked my vin this it what it returned. Can you check my vin again to see if my car has completed any updates behind the scenes?

3FMTK3R75NMA19684

Your car has not been trying very hard. In fact, you got a new gateway (GWM) added to your list.

Make sure your tech does the GWM and APIM in the correct order (see attached).

It's doubtful any of the other listed updates will come as OTAs.

 

[tr0nd]

Hi,
Could anyone please check vin WF0TK3SU4MMA24065. I haven't received any updates for quite a while... Thanks!

 

[Mike G]

Hi,
Could anyone please check vin WF0TK3SU4MMA24065. I haven't received any updates for quite a while... Thanks!

Here's the list of available updates:

 

[Cesaarel]

Your car has not been trying very hard. In fact, you got a new gateway (GWM) added to your list.

Make sure your tech does the GWM and APIM in the correct order (see attached).

It's doubtful any of the other listed updates will come as OTAs.

Thank you! I’m going to schedule a service appointment and bring this up to them.

 

[xofox25]

Hi everyone,
Could it be possible for anyone to please check vin WF0TK3SU7MMA51521.
I just bought my MME (second hand, one years old) and it seems that it haven't received any updates at all... Auto updates is on and scheduled at thursdays 00:07 am
My SYNC version is : SYNC4 v4.0.21180 (from january 2022).
Any change to update it from FDRS or dealer ?
Thanks!

 

[Mike G]

Hi everyone,
Could it be possible for anyone to please check vin WF0TK3SU7MMA51521.
I just bought my MME (second hand, one years old) and it seems that it haven't received any updates at all... Auto updates is on and scheduled at thursdays 00:07 am
My SYNC version is : SYNC4 v4.0.21180 (from january 2022).
Any change to update it from FDRS or dealer ?
Thanks!

23 Sep '21 build date, Job 2 car.

Here's the list of available updates:

I would change the schedule for updates to sometime mid-morning. Preferably to right after you've arrived at work (assuming you drive to work). It is more likely that your 12V battery will be above 80% state of charge after a short drive to work and that will allow updates to process. Scheduling for midnight means your 12V battery is probably not at the minimum state of charge for updates to process. You don't have to have your car connected to your home Wi-Fi to get updates. It only uses the car's TCU anyway.

There are only two updates in this list that are likely to get applied as OTAs; the APIM (Sync) and the HVAC module (OTA 3.6.1). The rest would likely only get updated by a tech using FDRS (unless you know somebody who can do it for a couple of beers).

 

[xofox25]

Thanks a lot Mike !
I will follow your recommandations for scheduling updates.
If I understand well, other modules can be updated during OTA updates ? Ford Power-Up version history - Wikipedia

 

[Mark H]

Mike thanks so much for the detailed explanation! Have a great day!

Mike thanks so much for the detailed explanation! Have a great day!

That is the most often asked question we get here really.

There are a few modules that cannot get updated with an OTA, two are in your list:
GSM - updated if gearshift errors are present as DTCs (in the dealer's connected vehicle dashboard) or you get an error message
WACM - updated if your iPhone gets hot but doesn't charge properly

Seemingly all MY21 Job 2 cars with available cruise-control related updates have had those updates on their lists this entire year, and they haven't been updated via OTA. You have four of those updates in your list:
CCM
CMR
IPMA
PSCM

Powertrain updates have occasionally been updated (22S41 recall did go out as an OTA for many). You currently have a PCM update in your list.

The OBCC update in your list was intended to address a specific issue with EVGO chargers but this hasn't been sent out as an OTA as far as I'm aware.

And like the WACM module above there are some modules that are only updated in response to a customer concern and have so far not been updated by an OTA although they are capable of it:
RFA - updated in response to poor Bluetooth connectivity between your car and your phone, (think PAAK issues)
DSM - updated in response to a customer concern about the driver's seat and mirror settings not matching the profile/keyfob in use at the time. (Seat and mirrors go to the wrong position for the current driver, based on the keyfob they are carrying).

BCM and GFM (Frunk latch module) are capable of being updated via OTA but have not been so far. This update combo is especially desirable for those with J1 cars because it enables opening of the frunk with the driver's door keypad and a keyfob that has that functionality (many use the Lightning keyfob for this). Not sure what good it would do to have that updated on a J2 car if you already have that functionality.

Bottom line....don't look for these to be updated by an OTA anytime soon.

 

[Mark H]

Mike I had the dealer install the missing updates but while at the dealership I received an alert from the Ford app "high voltage battery warning" what could have happened? Also, would you please check that all updates were installed VIN 3FMTK4SE5MME02361, thanks again!

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