Tesla Supercharger access now stated as February 2024 (by Tesla)

[uclavic]

Might be nice, but no chance of that happening. Don't get your hopes up.

I thought the v.4 chargers have a 3 ft longer chord that the previous generations. So hopefully that helps out.

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[DevSecOps]

What does that have to do with using a Tesla charger at .49/kwh to charge a MME. I don't think we (MME drivers) can charge for .36 at a Rivian charger. Thanks for comparing apples to oranges.

You replied to me and talked about gas in an ICE vehicle so let me ask you the same question since we want to be rude about it... What does an ICE vehicle and gas have anything to do with using a Tesla charger?

Maybe I was just showing you that the cost of road tripping can be higher than the gas prices at the MPG of your ICE vehicle, but go ahead and be an ass-hat.

And just FYI you can get the same rates as we do on RAN units if you have the EA membership at EA stations, so yes you can get the same rate driving an MME.

 

[dbsb3233]

I thought the v.4 chargers have a 3 ft longer chord that the previous generations. So hopefully that helps out.

Yes, they do. 9 foot on the V4s vs 6 foot on the V3s. Problem is there's almost no V4s in the US yet. Nearly all the SCs that we'll get access to in a few months are V3s.

 

[dbsb3233]

Isn't is 15,000 now rather than 12,000? Wasn't there a new Ford press release that updated it to 15,000 Superchargers?

Yes, Tesla has expanded the network quite a bit since that initial announcement. Impressive pace.

https://twitter.com/superchargefeed

 

[Guss-E 2021]

Tesla does not have CC or NFC on their units.

I thought the V4 chargers do? Not that is a whole lot of those out there yet so probably not material if they do.

 

[dbsb3233]

I thought the V4 chargers do? Not that is a whole lot of those out there yet so probably not material if they do.

Yes, a few V4s have been spotted with MagicDock and NFC readers. Only seen a couple in the US so far. But in the coming years hopefully we'll see a bunch.

For the next few years though it's likely to be mostly V3s we'll have access too. Need to be careful to make sure it's not a V2 station, since those won't work for us. It appears roughly 40% of the US SC stations are V2s still, so gotta check it first. V2's show up as "150kw" and V3's "250kw" on the Tesla map.

https://www.tesla.com/findus

 

[SCP31]

I could be wrong, but I would have thought that maybe two to three months after the deals were announced, GM and Ford would have been working with Tesla's charging team to test beta software on one or two of their EVs using a Tesla supercharger.

But it seems to me that most of the software related changes would need to take place on Tesla's side. Software changes that would recognize 'authorized' vehicles using the vehicle's Vin or Mac ID, which would probably need to incorporate Plug and Charge and any other tools Tesla would need to lock down the access.

I'm going to speculate and say that the adapter will be made by Tesla and that the adapter will also be apart of the authentication process. Meaning, that there would have to be some way for the adapter to verify your vehicle's VIN and then pass that on to Tesla's system, which would confirm that you're authorized. But I'm just guessing so take that it for what it's worth, which is nothing.

I have already charged at Tesla charging station with my Mach e GT. The newest Tesla charging stations have a CCS adapter built in. Once I figured out how to plug the Tesla plug into the adaptor, it was simple. You have to push really hard to get the adaptor to connect to the Tesla plug. Once I figured that out, I charged without a hitch. It seemed to charge reasonably fast, too.

 

[AKgrampy]

I have already charged at Tesla charging station with my Mach e GT. The newest Tesla charging stations have a CCS adapter built in. Once I figured out how to plug the Tesla plug into the adaptor, it was simple. You have to push really hard to get the adaptor to connect to the Tesla plug. Once I figured that out, I charged without a hitch. It seemed to charge reasonably fast, too.

Those stations are not the same as the 12 - 15,000 stations they are referring to. I would assume that is a Magic Dock station like the ones we have here in Alaska.

 

[DevSecOps]

Yes, a few V4s have been spotted with MagicDock and NFC readers. Only seen a couple in the US so far. But in the coming years hopefully we'll see a bunch.

For the next few years though it's likely to be mostly V3s we'll have access too. Need to be careful to make sure it's not a V2 station, since those won't work for us. It appears roughly 40% of the US SC stations are V2s still, so gotta check it first. V2's show up as "150kw" and V3's "250kw" on the Tesla map.

https://www.tesla.com/findus

I personally believe that Tesla will stop making units with magic dock now that every mfg is on board with NACS. This will give them more revenue and less cost in the sale or licensing of adapters.

 

[dbsb3233]

Those stations are not the same as the 12 - 15,000 stations they are referring to. I would assume that is a Magic Dock station like the ones we have here in Alaska.

Yeah, sounds like he's referring to a station with MagicDocks. By my count we're up to 43 Supercharger stations with MDs across the US and Canada now, which is roughly 5% of total stations. Totally different thing than the access we'll have to all V3 & V4 stations next year via adapter.

They're still sprinkling in some MD installs sporadically, but only a few per month (so far anyway). The most recent ones I saw added were Pittsburgh PA and Birmingham AL.

 

[dbsb3233]

I personally believe that Tesla will stop making units with magic dock now that every mfg is on board with NACS. This will give them more revenue and less cost in the sale or licensing of adapters.

Could be. Hard to figure out their strategy. They went ahead and added a few dozen more MagicDocks well after they came to the agreements with Ford/GM/etc though. If they were going to abandon MD because of that, I'd have thought they'd have done it after those agreements. But they surprised us by still adding more later in the year, even this month. It's anyone's guess what their strategy is.

Maybe they'd already made 1000 or something and don't want to waste them? Or maybe they're waiting until lots of competitor vehicles come with native NASC in another year or three?

And why build the brand new V4s with them built in?

They're keeping it interesting, at least.

 

[RickMachE]

They committed to 3,500 stations with CCS plugs by end of 2024...

 

[nvabill]

Sorry but not sorry, I am laughing my ass off as I read through 5 pages of MME folks talking about using Tesla chargers. I mean seriously, all I can think about as I peruse this thread is all the, "I hate Elon Musk, I would never buy a Tesla" people and the thought of those same folks ponying up to one of his chargers is too much for me not to laugh! ? ? ?

 

[RickMachE]

The problem is that EA is crap. At a location recently I had to wait a half hour. 3 working Tesla Superchargers empty. People with free charging can't get it free there. Some places have no EA like Vermont.

I do hate giving Elon money.

 

[dbsb3233]

They committed to 3,500 stations with CCS plugs by end of 2024...

Every story I find seems to have wildly different numbers. Some seem to be including L2. Others include V2s that won't work for us. Many seem to contradict each other.

But regardless of the actual number, it's a lot. Certainly be a help, even if we personally never use use one (by relieving pressure from EA).

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