Dual EVSE Recommendations please

[TRP]

Yesterday we got rid of the F250 that we no longer needed and replaced it with a 2023 Nissan Ariya Engage+ for the wife.

Will have to charge on 120v outlet for the time being, same as my Mach E, until we do an electrical upgrade which is planned in the near future. At that time a dedicated 50amp outlet will be installed. I currently own a GrizzlE smart charger that I have never been able to get the smart function to work on...........charger works fine tho

What would you suggest for a dual charger?

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[HuntingPudel]

I would first ask the question of whether you need to charge both cars at the same time. My brother and I share the ancient dumb L2 EVSE I have and almost never run into a conflict. If you can get by with L1 charging, I would suspect that you don’t need to have both cars plugged in at the same time and could save some money by using the EVSE you already have. ?‍?

 

[TRP]

I would first ask the question of whether you need to charge both cars at the same time. My brother and I share the ancient dumb L2 EVSE I have and almost never run into a conflict. If you can get by with L1 charging, I would suspect that you don’t need to have both cars plugged in at the same time and could save some money by using the EVSE you already have. ?‍?

Valid points.

I am in no hurry to buy anything since I couldn't plug it in now anyway. Was just researching options.

That a is certainly an option I need to consider. Thanks for opening my eyes

 

[A-A-Ron]

Without knowing what your electrical situation is (what will your upgrade look like) - it really depends on what your house load is and what type of service you'll have. If you're upgrading from something 100A or less to 200A+, you could easily run 2 40A chargers simultaneously after the upgrade. You could also get any charger that supports current limits and limit charging to 20A each. Or as others have said, you could just charge 1 at a time and save a lot of money on wiring and equipment with a single EVSE

 

[moog]

Yea, ummm why are you charging two vehicles at the same time?
I doubt that would happen much at all, unless you both drive hundreds of miles each day.

You are going to gobble up quite a bit of amps in your panel for two chargers.

 

[TRP]

Yea, ummm why are you charging two vehicles at the same time?
I doubt that would happen much at all, unless you both drive hundreds of miles each day.

You are going to gobble up quite a bit of amps in your panel for two chargers.

I have a habit of plugging the Mach E in every time I park it. I assume the wife will as well. Would they actually charge at the same time? Probably not and if so it would only be a small amount each night.

After considering this feed back and from others....I probably do not need a dual EVSE. I get by so far just fine with the Mach E on L1. After the utility upgrade I'll be back on 40amp charging and that would be plenty

 

[TRP]

Without knowing what your electrical situation is (what will your upgrade look like) - it really depends on what your house load is and what type of service you'll have. If you're upgrading from something 100A or less to 200A+, you could easily run 2 40A chargers simultaneously after the upgrade. You could also get any charger that supports current limits and limit charging to 20A each. Or as others have said, you could just charge 1 at a time and save a lot of money on wiring and equipment with a single EVSE

House currently has 100 amp service with only 20 amp in the garage. Plan is to upgrade service to 200 amp and add a separate 100 amp panel in the garage. Then I can add extra lighting, a few standard outlets and a 50 amp plug for the current EVSE we own.

I suppose I could add 2 50amp circuits and have 2 EVSEs. After reading some of the feed back here, not sure that expense is actually worth it even if it would be easier at that time to do so.

 

[Makomachine]

I’m considering the Grizzle E dual on Amazon down the line. Wife and I both have a commute and I’m too forgetful to remember to swap the cord before I go to bed. 1st world problems for sure but we’ll always be a 2 or more EV household so a nice convenience. I looked at Clipper creek but yikes are they proud of their hardware!

 

[MABachE131]

My wife and I just share one charger. Never any problems. Usually charge one in the evening after both home, then switch before bed.

 

[TRP]

I’m considering the Grizzle E dual on Amazon down the line. Wife and I both have a commute and I’m too forgetful to remember to swap the cord before I go to bed. 1st world problems for sure but we’ll always be a 2 or more EV household so a nice convenience. I looked at Clipper creek but yikes are they proud of their hardware!

Check out the GrizzlE web site. You can get a refurbished one (scratch and dent) for a lot less than new. If I change my mind I'll probably do that one

 

[RickMachE]

Multiple brands can share a 60amp circuit with load balancing. Or, set each to 24amps.

 

[E90alex]

Depends on what your realistic needs and uses are.

Upgrading your service and panel to 200A and running a 100A line to the garage will be very expensive. Especially if the garage is not next to the panel.

Most likely you won’t need two chargers wired at full power (eg two 48 amp or even two 40 or 32 amp chargers).

If someone doesn’t drive much then they should do fine on 120V charging and the other can use the faster charger.

Or you can just switch off and charge each car every other day with the 240V charger if you have enough range on each car to last two days of driving.

Or a combination of both of the above, eg one charge on 120V and the other on 240V and switch off every other day or as needed.

We have a Tesla (MME coming soon) charging on 120V and a Lightning charging on 240V at only 16A and it meets our needs just fine. As long as it finishes by the time you leave then it’s not really an issue of how long it takes.

Otherwise if you want a setup you don’t have to think about, you can get something like the Grizzl-E Duo or two separate chargers that can power share.

 

[Maquis]

Depends on what your realistic needs and uses are.

Upgrading your service and panel to 200A and running a 100A line to the garage will be very expensive. Especially if the garage is not next to the panel.

Most likely you won’t need two chargers wired at full power (eg two 48 amp or even two 40 or 32 amp chargers).

If someone doesn’t drive much then they should do fine on 120V charging and the other can use the faster charger.

Or you can just switch off and charge each car every other day with the 240V charger if you have enough range on each car to last two days of driving.

Or a combination of both of the above, eg one charge on 120V and the other on 240V and switch off every other day or as needed.

We have a Tesla (MME coming soon) charging on 120V and a Lightning charging on 240V at only 16A and it meets our needs just fine. As long as it finishes by the time you leave then it’s not really an issue of how long it takes.

Otherwise if you want a setup you don’t have to think about, you can get something like the Grizzl-E Duo or two separate chargers that can power share.

The only caveat to that is that you’re taking about a 20% hit in charging efficiency using L1 instead of a > 32A L2.

 

[jmcbrew]

100 amps is tight, but not impossible to work with. I have 150 amp service and we are in the process of getting off of natural gas and going all electric. Also, my wife’s next car will be an EV, and my 15-year-old son’s first car will probably be an EV as well.

If you are getting by with L1 charging, I would suggest maybe going with a 16 amp 240V EVSE (or one that could be dialed back to such a level). This will effectively charge at about 3x the speed of L1. This will only require a 20 amp circuit.

I am assuming you don’t have an electric dryer, but if you do, you could use a NeoCharge or other brand device to share that circuit. It will simply pause EV charging until the dryer turns off. This would allow for 24 amp charging. You can also get a similar system where you have a sub panel for your EV charger(s) that will monitor the electrical usage in your house and will pause EV charging if you are using too many amps.

 

[ocdxfv]

The Tesla Gen 3 Wall connector will do load sharing on a single circuit. You can plug both cars in and it will balance the load as the cars need it. Other EVSEs also have this feature. I have had good luck with the Tesla units. Have your electrician wire up a 60a circuit and a hardwired Tesla unit can charge at 48amps (11.5kW).

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