L2 charging speed recently dropped 33%

[kennethjk]

When they say their car can be charged up to 48 amp, it is false advertising, it can’t not if the max is 32 at least not consistently

total BS from Ford again. You can get a GT or GTPE, just don’t drive it hard or you will blow your HvBJB, don’t charge fast because well you know it gets too hot and we will throttle it back, don’t WOT for more than 5 seconds well you know that’s too fast and we will throttle it back.

anything else we don’t know. What this shows is that it is inferior engineering And we are stuck with it.

all the other small issues I can live with but this is a reason to go to another Car company. I know no one is perfect but their silence is too much. I had to bring the car in 3 times before getting a letter to say this was normal.

sorry for the rant, just fed up.

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[Maquis]

When they say their car can be charged up to 48 amp, it is false advertising, it can’t not if the max is 32 at least not consistently

total BS from Ford again. You can get a GT or GTPE, just don’t drive it hard or you will blow your HvBJB, don’t charge fast because well you know it gets too hot and we will throttle it back, don’t WOT for more than 5 seconds well you know that’s too fast and we will throttle it back.

anything else we don’t know. What this shows is that it is inferior engineering And we are stuck with it.

all the other small issues I can live with but this is a reason to go to another Car company. I know no one is perfect but their silence is too much. I had to bring the car in 3 times before getting a letter to say this was normal.

sorry for the rant, just fed up.

To put it another way, all cars have some issues. But it’s how the manufacturer deals with these issues that makes or breaks the customer relationship. Ford is certainly failing us, at least in regard to these two issues.

 

[kennethjk]

To put it another way, all cars have some issues. But it’s how the manufacturer deals with these issues that makes or breaks the customer relationship. Ford is certainly failing us, at least in regard to these two issues.

You are more succinct and to the point than me.

bottom line is they have no real answer to those 2 issues. I guess better than blowing up in my garage.

 

[Shayne]

Several have reported that charge port replacement did fix it. It’s possible that your replacement is out of spec. It would interesting to see what your port temp sensor is reading during throttling.

That was just thrown out there to keep you guessing and confuse the issue a bit more. Until it is replaced and tried on mine I don't believe it. Or at least more than one noting it as I have heard the opposite and replacement fixed others issue. @Mach-Lee noted that they may refine the software first and then those that still have under the purchased specifications will be fixed with a new charging port? 3 to 4 month for anything to go through there is the fastest we should expect. What we have right now from Ford is a real dirty software move and then squat. It is like your ISP cutting your bandwidth in half and then telling you it is behaving normally right now.

 

[Maquis]

You are more succinct and to the point than me.

bottom line is they have no real answer to those 2 issues. I guess better than blowing up in my garage.

I suspect there are answers, just none that Ford is willing to pay for.

 

[Fixbear]

I think we have to remember that the AC charging is a 2 piece connection. One is the charge port. Ford can control this. The other and more important part is the charge connector. That is the part that provides the pin tension, contact pressure when you connect. I don't know how many different makers of the J1772 are, but you can bet they are not all the same. Over time we may see which ones emerge as the better quality, But I'm not sure if anyone is tracking that yet. Even the wire gauge and type has an effect on the plug temp. Being they are connected, heat will transfer to the charge port.

 

[Shayne]

I think we have to remember that the AC charging is a 2 piece connection. One is the charge port. Ford can control this. The other and more important part is the charge connector. That is the part that provides the pin tension, contact pressure when you connect. I don't know how many different makers of the J1772 are, but you can bet they are not all the same. Over time we may see which ones emerge as the better quality, But I'm not sure if anyone is tracking that yet. Even the wire gauge and type has an effect on the plug temp. Being they are connected, heat will transfer to the charge port.

Are you blaming the chargers for a software hack from Ford that crapped out our charging speed? Sure it is the chargers; charge points, grizzles as well as others are all defective and are frying Ford HVJB's. Funny how all our chargers went down after the Ford software update that is starting to appear was sent to all again to protect their faulty hardware. Don't believe it is the chargers for a minute but interesting take.

 

[azerik]

Just about 'winter'. Time for that fix to roll out, and get screwed up again around Spring.
Just saying

 

[Dulce’s pony]

Hi all,

My at-home charging has dropped significantly since 6/11. I used to sustain 9KWH @ 40 amps consistently on my Juicebox 40. Now the car seems to prefer 6KWH @ 30 amps after 20 minutes.

I believe this is after the recent update to address the charging related recall.

Seeing if you all are experiencing something similar?

I doubt anything has happened to the charger as I was on another L2 yest and the car was pulling 6KWH most of the time.

Having the same issue and was wondering if it was the software update. Is it?

 

[mkhuffman]

Having the same issue and was wondering if it was the software update. Is it?

Maybe.

 

[Shayne]

Having the same issue and was wondering if it was the software update. Is it?

Yes. If you read a few pages back here and look at the note on the first post of this Thread you will see it was an update that did it.

 

[Fixbear]

Are you blaming the chargers for a software hack from Ford that crapped out our charging speed? Sure it is the chargers; charge points, grizzles as well as others are all defective and are frying Ford HVJB's. Funny how all our chargers went down after the Ford software update that is starting to appear was sent to all again to protect their faulty hardware. Don't believe it is the chargers for a minute but interesting take.

I'm not blaming anything! What I'm saying is that there is more to the problem than many realize. Some cars had/have problems with the charge port suffering damage. Ford reacted by adding a temp safety to protect our vehicles as they explore what is the problem. I haven't experienced a cutback yet with my Grizzl-e, but I understand the frustration it would cause. Especially if you had to be close to the wire on charging versus leave time. They have to take to safe route.

 

[kennethjk]

Would be nice if they told us so we wouldn’t have to find out by accident.

 

[Shayne]

I'm not blaming anything! What I'm saying is that there is more to the problem than many realize. Some cars had/have problems with the charge port suffering damage. Ford reacted by adding a temp safety to protect our vehicles as they explore what is the problem. I haven't experienced a cutback yet with my Grizzl-e, but I understand the frustration it would cause. Especially if you had to be close to the wire on charging versus leave time. They have to take to safe route.

No damage here at all and has been compressed air and Q-tips clean with all pins straight as arrows and shinny clean. Was working for 2.5 years until the software. My handle has always been warm but not 80C. Touch yours see if it is warm after an hour drawing 240V. Defective temp senor or wrong software for it maybe. Defective port all together. Started beginning of June and we have realize nothing because it was snuck in and we were informed of nothing to realize. Try putting up with it for months and know when you hit charge to 100% before a trip what you are in for. They have to take a route where they sneak it in with absolutely no explanation is for our safety is your guess?

 

[Peugfan]

Same story with my charging. Two years of charging at 40 amps, then 4.2.6 update in June then bam….will cycle between 40 amps and 32 amps. The charge handle on my JB 40 charge port connecter is and always has been barely above body temp so I do not know where this sensor is that says it's hot as hell and the charge rate has to be slowed down.

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