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Just saw an onine ad from Mullinax Ford in Flordia. They are advertising a premium RWD, ER for $63,100 That's 10K over MSRP. Dissapointed. Have a Mache on order but was hoping to get a swap from dealer on in stock. Guess not!
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I'm in Socal, and been looking at ordering a Mach E GT Performace. Here's my research on who accepts xplan on orders and who doesn't
Fiesta Ford in Indio said they would honor x-plan. Or at least they did when I placed my order back in April for a MME GTPE.
 

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Not quite sure how to post on these forums yet, but double check Phil Long Ford of Colorado Springs, their Denver location I believe is the same as Sil-Tehar (Broomfield, CO) where they have a "fee" just for a car sale. At Phil Long Ford Denver it's called a "DNH" and is about $699.




Yup.. gonna try a list of Ford dealerships who do not charge ADM (additional dealer markup).

For those of you with C8 vettes on order as well, I think we are rapidly entering an era where customers can be honest with OEMs:
NO ONE likes constant renegotiation and adversarial relationships where stress becomes part of the buying experience.
Negotiations with dealers sucks.
Get rid of it?

Can we sticky a list of dealers doing no ADM like the C8 site?

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[LAST UPDATED 8/03/21]


If you want to sort/filter, please COPY the sheet before doing so from File > Make a copy. Do not request edit access, it won't be granted.

Please use the following links to view and add to the list:

View on Google Sheets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16RahKAdIraR9PRSOxSct_EdLMsXICyuf8qmxxgi4vHs/edit?usp=sharing

Add to the list:
https://forms.gle/u9smgZR2y1ku3QEZ8


The attached .txt file is a backup from before the sheets version.
 

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went to Angela Krause Ford yesterday (Roswell, GA)... they're doing a $5000 markup on all Mach-E's
 

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I would like to add some dealers to the list here in Central Jersey.

All American - No markups except on Premium

DCH Eatontown - No markups except on Premium. I just got mine from them last night and they were fantastic to deal with. Dealer, General Manager and Finance were all ~30 years old and were pretty straightforward. Gave me a ton for my existing lease which got me an amazing deal.

Also keep in mind that dealers are being very creative. Many claim not to have a markup and wont show it on a term sheet, but lower the residual or change the interest rate.
 


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Encinitas Ford is adding a >$10k ADM on some of its vehicles, but is listed as not having an ADM.

Ford Mustang Mach-E Official List: No ADM Mach-E Ford Dealers Screen Shot 2021-08-28 at 8.22.20 AM
 

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Encinitas Ford is adding a >$10k ADM on some of its vehicles, but is listed as not having an ADM.
Honestly, dealership model being what it is, we should not vilify dealers adjusting prices for vehicles on their lot. Providing consumers true market based prices which cannot be manipulated by manufacturers is the reason why dealerships are mandated by law. It is supposed to be control against monopolistic behavior. (whether or not it is effective or not is a whole other question which I will not debate here).
On the other hand, Ordered vehicles, where the dealer has no carrying costs should not be marked up.
 

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This list needs to have a bold header that specifies new orders.

Almost all dealers will put markup on sitting cars on the lot ... but majority of the list (At least in CA) are accurate in terms of no ADM for orders/takeovers etc.

Seems to be like if a dealership has a name attached to car prior to arrival they'll be less likely to put an ADM on it, but if it comes in w/o an name it's free market adjustment time.
I wonder if it has to do with some sort of Ford Allocation System or some other factor(s) at play.
 

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Curry Ford of Valpo in Valparaiso Indiana. They are doing a $10,000 markup on the mach-e's they get on their lot. You are not even allowed to drive it unless you talk numbers with them. They're also doing a 20,000 markup on any super duty 5 to 10 on f-150s $25,000 on the new raptor. 5,000 on escapes and ecosports. Freaking stupid and my sister-in-law buy a Mazda because all she paid was sticker. She will never want to buy a Ford again
 

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Sarchione Auto Group (Randolph, Alliance, and Waynesburg Ohio). No ADM on new orders.
 

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Middleton Ford in Madison, WI can be removed. They are charging $5,000.00 over MSRP and will only honor X-Plan if you order direct. They will not honor it on “in-stock”.
 

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I'm in Socal, and been looking at ordering a Mach E GT Performace. Here's my research on who accepts xplan on orders and who doesn't

Yes X-plan on orders:)
No X-plan on orders:mad:
Star Ford
Airport Marina Ford​
Autonation ford Torrance
Huntington Beach Ford​
Puente Hills Ford
Sunrise Ford North Hollywood​
Tuttle Click Ford Irvine
Alhambra Ford​
Norm Reeves superstore
Ford of Montebello​
Galpin Ford
ED Butts Ford​
Villa Ford
Santa Monica​
Theodore Robins
Performance Ford​
Advantage Ford​
Thanks for compiling this list!
For the ones that accept X-plan on your list, do they also not have ADM?
I'm in Los Angeles area and thinking of ordering one, and I'm closest to Puente Hills Ford, but I hate dealing with dealers because I always feel like I'm going to be scammed at some point...
 

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Thanks for compiling this list!
For the ones that accept X-plan on your list, do they also not have ADM?
I'm in Los Angeles area and thinking of ordering one, and I'm closest to Puente Hills Ford, but I hate dealing with dealers because I always feel like I'm going to be scammed at some point...
If you qualify, and you and your dealer agree to transact the purchase with X-Plan, then the dealer cannot adjust the sale price for the vehicle itself. The price is calculated per the plan as prescribed by Ford, the manufacturer.

Per the plan rules, which you should definitely go and read at fordpartner.com, the dealer is permitted to charge up to $100 in "doc fees" (for paperwork and other miscellany), and may also charge for value added enhancements to the vehicle:

The dealership may charge any price negotiated (at or above dealer cost) between the dealer and the customer for undercoating, dealer installed options, extended service contracts and other items or services that add value to the vehicle, provided such items are priced separately and listed individually on the retail buyer's order and the AXZD-Plan Pricing Agreement.​
 

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Thanks for compiling this list!
For the ones that accept X-plan on your list, do they also not have ADM?
I'm in Los Angeles area and thinking of ordering one, and I'm closest to Puente Hills Ford, but I hate dealing with dealers because I always feel like I'm going to be scammed at some point...
basically what he said. but just incase dealership doesn't understand the rules, i've asked them the same thing, if they will not do any additional add ons. I ended up with ken groudy because they were the most responsive to me. some dealerhsips took weeks to respond, which wasn't the type of communication i wanted,

Also note to any one in the area. AVOID ALHAMBRA WONDERIES FORD AT ALLLLLLL COST. they just ding an order for 10k mark up. Was a cyber orange GT too!. customer didnt' take it. can only guess they didn't know there was a mark up! fucken sucks.
 

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I just updated the form. Ford of Londonderry Internet Sales Manager told me he would honor x-plan if Ford had it for the Mach-E. Today I am supposed to take delivery and he is backing out of it saying we talked about x-plan but he never said that. I hope no one does business with them again. I've heard nothing but negative things about how they treat people, but I thought I was having a decent experience and wanted to give them a shot and stay local (mind you, I have 3 other Ford dealers within 10-15 miles of my house, too).
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