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Nothing is “future proofed.” Eventually vehicles will come along which need or can make use of higher power, and the charging infrastructure will evolve, independent of the connector interface. At best it is “today proofed.”
Suffice that CCS is pretty much worlds's choice at this point with US, Canada, Europe, Korea going the CCS route on the cars and public charging systems.

That debate is over.

The only complaints about an EV plug are from Tesla fans. For Tesla owners in US/Canada, kept hostage by Tesla, sooner or later Tesla will likely provide the same $200 adapter in US as it does in EU for older Teslas. Tesla will hold onto the captive market as long as possible.

Canada might, investing in all CCS, go the route of EU and require all EV's sold to have CCS or an adapter which would force Tesla's hand as EU did.
 
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Suffice that CCS is pretty much worlds's choice at this point with US, Canada, Europe, Korea going the CCS route on the cars and public charging systems.

That debate is over.

The only complaints about an EV plug are from Tesla fans. For Tesla owners in US/Canada, kept hostage by Tesla, sooner or later Tesla will likely provide the same $200 adapter in US as it does in EU for older Teslas. Tesla will hold onto the captive market as long as possible.

Canada might, investing in all CCS, might go the route of EU and require all EV's sold to have CCS or an adapter which would force Tesla's hand as EU did.
Yes but that still leaves the CCS1 vs CCS2. This difference will prevent moving cars between North America and Europe. Not sure where the rest of the world falls on that one.
 

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Have you guys ever seen the same standard for anything in EU/UK vs NA, NTSC-PAL, 240V system vs 120V-50hz vs 60hz and others, ;) I don't see the day yet where that will happen.
 

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Yes but that still leaves the CCS1 vs CCS2. This difference will prevent moving cars between North America and Europe. Not sure where the rest of the world falls on that one.
I don‘t think there are ever cars moving from EU to US or vice versa. It’s not a real issue.

CCS1 and CCS2 are essentially identical. You’ll see the Tesla fans with their hair on fire about the very minor differences.
 

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I don‘t think there are ever cars moving from EU to US or vice versa. It’s not a real issue.

CCS1 and CCS2 are essentially identical. You’ll see the Tesla fans with their hair on fire about the very minor differences.
Military personell stationed overseas will frequently ship their cars there for the term of their stay.

At any rate, there are adapters for the different plugs (indeed we've seen pictures of EU Mach-E's charging at US stations using an adapter).
 

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Military personell stationed overseas will frequently ship their cars there for the term of their stay.
Indeed and for US troops in Korea CCS will be the same. EU troops in Europe will need a CCS1/2 adapter.

It's a very small group and an even smaller subset of those who will have EV's and even smaller group that go to bases that it makes sense and even smaller group of those who ship cars over vs. storing them. Bases have transportation and EU has great public transit so need for cars is small.
 
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CCS1 and CCS2 are essentially identical. You’ll see the Tesla fans with their hair on fire about the very minor differences.
Yes. It's the same standard. The difference is that in CCS2 the AC part of the combo uses a Mennekes connector just to give the German manufacturers a plug. (JK but true). With CCS1 the top AC plug is J1772.
 

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There are quite a few 50 KW chargers in Quebec though.
Yes a some Petro Canada 150kW to 350kW also, but Ford Pass I believe would work with EC.
 



 









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