Why Mach-E over Tesla & Others

[JohnFoxeSheets]

in order of most to least important, some of which no longer apply

1. musk's control of the company is an ethical risk to me, which is a personal opinion. however, it is also objectively a business risk when one person (particularly one of this personality) has so much control. it risks the brand's reputation, long term viability, etc for a company that has not stood the test of time in the first place
2. no carplay/android auto
3. build quality concerns. i'm told this has gotten better, though i'm still not a fan of the touch and feel, maybe gets into #5
4. no dash display and the only screen is horizontal which i believe is the wrong orientation
5. design is not my style, not only aesthetically but often different from ICE for virtually no reason. i wanted to be able to switch back and forth between ICE and EV with ease and not get into an accident because i forgot which one i was in
6. mach e was cheaper than model y [retrospect: i think this is no longer true at the current rebate situation, i bought in 2021 where the y cost 10k-15k more]
7. servicing concerns (proximity of servicing centers, lack of appointment availability). [retrospect: my experience w/ ford servicing has been extremely poor. tons of dealers but all the ones near me are shady and inexperienced. with full hindsight i would not consider this an advantage for ford anymore]

overall i'd strongly consider the tesla Y if i were shopping today with full knowledge of what i know now. i don't think it'd pay extra $ for the mach e based on any of the above, so would have to make the economics work

Exactly this list, except the part about considering the MY off making the decision now. 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 all still apply, no matter the price differential.

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[Cool]

I stayed loyal to Ford since I loved my 2017 Mustang. I like the look. Took me awhile to see the resemblance to ICE Mustangs. Looking to get a 2025 ICE Mustang. I liked the 2023 Mercedes cla 45 but never could get a test drive. I gained a lot of weight since I bought my ICe Mustang. My family motivated me to get something roomier. The range is disappointing for road trips. I think it looks better than the Tesla since they all look last decade. I like having an unconventional car. I probably save 50% vs gas. Would I consider a Tesla if they get a facelift…of course. I thought my Mach E would have all the Tesla features. I was wrong.One thing me and my lil bro learned is our future Mustangs must be GT.

 

[stealthytolkien]

No blind spot alert.
No rear cross traffic alert.
Harsher suspension.
Awkward screen placement (subjective)
No heads up display.
No screen in front of the driver.
Too few tactile buttons for functions.
Too many of them around.

 

[DennisD]

For me it was purely aesthetics. I think the model X looks okay, but it is just too pricey for what it is. All the other models look like an egg or an amusement park ride and are just so damn ugly. I was also slightly worried about quality. The tech was very temping though and I had to tell myself to get off the order page many times.

Side note: I find it hilarious all the anti-Elon comments because if you would have asked that 3 years ago they would be salivating at his feet. Bunch of Whoopi Goldberg's selling their once beloved Tesla because Elon isn't a sheep. Little reminder, if it wasn't for Elon we most probably wouldn't even have a MachE and you'd still be purchasing ICE vehicles or a Prius.

I just can't imagine how much money both Elon Musk and the Pillow guy lost because of their inability to leave Politics out of their business. I run and operate a business and I am fully aware that if you "advertise" your political views along side your product, you are at best going to please 50% of the potential customers you are wanting and alienate the other 50%.

Yes, without Elon the EV would not be as advanced. That still doesn't change the fact that half the people on the Planet of not liking him (which is amazing on an EV thread/forum as well). That should tell you everything.

 

[PharaohHound138]

I really like the model 3 and I prefer a sedan over a SUV or crossover. I was 100% set on ordering a model 3, then I saw the Mach-E!! The styling is great, the price was right and it generally is a real head turner. So after some research to see if the Mach E had everything I wanted, as far as amenities, I decided the Premium was the car for me.

 

[vinnyz]

The Tesla I spec'd out came in well over 100k
the Mach E GT was at 66, so that was a no brainer for my first EV
However I was planning to drive the Mach E to Florida last winter and changed my mind at the last minute, good thing I did I would have never made it but if I had the Tesla it would have been ok

 

[NoMoPetrol]

Isn't owning a car about styling and design? And performance?

And not buying from Musk?

I've driven a Tesla for the last 6 years. It is not an Elon Musk. Similarly I do not squeeze the CEO of Proctor and Gamble onto my toothbrush every morning; I instead consume the toothpaste manufactured by that company.

 

[EasyPass]

1. The Muskrat is too wonky to be relied on, too autocratic to be trusted, always seems to fail-up as annoying as that turns out to be. The cars are butt ugly and seem to have production issues in the car manufacturing realm. The Tech is good, however, as well as the charging infrastructure, but that wasn't enough to get past the other negatives.
2. I came from a Hyundai Sonata and really wanted to continue with the brand, but the Ionic 5 wasn't ready when I was. I decided later that the styling of that vehicle wasn't compatible with my desires. The Kia EV6 was far off as well. It could have been more of a contender than the Hyundai, but couldn't wait any longer.
3. We've had a Fusion Energi PHEV since 2017 and have had a few Fords/Mercurys over the years and generally have been satisfied with the marque.
4. The MME looks great, has functionally acceptable range, great utility, was in the sweet spot for purchase price and is backed by a company with a history that is looking forward.
5. All the other possibilities at the time were either too costly, not being delivered yet , or didn't provide the overall long term value of the MME.

 

[DevSecOps]

I just can't imagine how much money both Elon Musk and the Pillow guy lost because of their inability to leave Politics out of their business. I run and operate a business and I am fully aware that if you "advertise" your political views along side your product, you are at best going to please 50% of the potential customers you are wanting and alienate the other 50%.

Yes, without Elon the EV would not be as advanced. That still doesn't change the fact that half the people on the Planet of not liking him (which is amazing on an EV thread/forum as well). That should tell you everything.

The thing that escapes me is that you have to be really narcissistic to think that Elon "needs" your money. Additionally, it's statistically factual that far more right leaning people are in the stock market than left leaning. So the majority owners of Ford probably have some of the same view points as those of Elon. I bet people are trembling at that thought right now.

In my years alive I have never once considered the view points of a CEO when purchasing something. There's a lot of them that have taken stances that I disagree with, but I never stopped buying from them. It's not like that one guy/gal shares the views of their employees who work hard to feed their families.

But for the sake of those people who can't help but judge others based on their beliefs, I agree that businesses shouldn't never take a political stance. They should be neutral.

 

[phil]

I just can't imagine how much money both Elon Musk and the Pillow guy lost because of their inability to leave Politics out of their business.

For some people, there are higher values than personal wealth.

For some people, those higher values include programming their products with fart sounds.

 

[rkmoray]

For me it was simple.
1)Loved the way the Mustang looked(Tesla looked like an overgrown VW bug)
2) liked that it had a driver screen so I always did not have to look to my right to see my speed.
3)Most of all, the font on the Tesla display was not sizeable, and I could not read it because the font was too small(My neighbour that has a tesla told me that was fixed in the last update)

 

[MotownMachdoc]

I’m curious as to everyone’s thoughts on why they chose a Mach-E over a Tesla…

Personally I think Tesla got a lot of things right minus the styling & design. I think they’re bland/boring and everyone and their mother has one.

Why did you buy a Mach-E?

At the time of my purchase, Mach E has better styling, better interior, better build quality. Range was not a big difference, and reviewing Tesla service reviews, it was poor. At the time, pricing was better for the Mach e. My only software issue was the PAAk challenge. No issue with the key fob. I was familiar using one for decades.

 

[Mach Al]

Looks, middle screen, dealership network and Ford fit and finish.

 

[Alan]

There were a number of subjective reasons we chose the Mach-E over the Y, but the two objective reasons that were important were 1) the terrible rear view in the Y cutting off so high that a small car at your bumper could be completely out of sight without the rear camera, vs. excellent visibility all around on the ME, and 2) the terrible turning radius of the Y compared to the not great turning radius of the ME that makes such a huge difference in places like parking lots, or when needing to do a U-turn legally.

 

[DennisD]

The thing that escapes me is that you have to be really narcissistic to think that Elon "needs" your money. Additionally, it's statistically factual that far more right leaning people are in the stock market than left leaning. So the majority owners of Ford probably have some of the same view points as those of Elon. I bet people are trembling at that thought right now.

In my years alive I have never once considered the view points of a CEO when purchasing something. There's a lot of them that have taken stances that I disagree with, but I never stopped buying from them. It's not like that one guy/gal shares the views of their employees who work hard to feed their families.

But for the sake of those people who can't help but judge others based on their beliefs, I agree that businesses shouldn't never take a political stance. They should be neutral.

Perception is reality.

I never stated that he "needed" my money. I am simply saying that as a business practice, he is leaving money on the table by his ignorant stance on multiple fronts.

The CEO that is aligned with opposing views is actually the smart one in the room if like you suggest, the owners are in the dark with said views.

That is my point. Now while you seem to not care, there are others that do and I would be willing to bet that Elon has some regret with the blowback that he has received because of his ignorance on this issue of taking sides.

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