Anyone running on Michelin CrossClimate2?

[gafear]

Could you share more pictures of your car? Esp for the back. I am on the fence on getting 245s vs 235vs on stock 19 inch. Also, with increased PSI have to noticed any dip in range?

I think you quoted the wrong person

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[louibluey]

From what I have read about rolling resistance, width has a minor impact. Tire pressure has a significant impact, and the tire material has a significant impact. The CrossClimte2 tire performs really well in all weather conditions if you trust Tire Rack reviews, and I do. 5-10% range hit is probably what people will see even with them inflated to 42 psi.

Personally I am considering 245/50 R19 Pirelli P7 tires for my incoming Premium MME because they are designed to be low rolling resistance and seem to do relatively well in performance testing. If you read the reviews on Tire Rack, however, you will see what all low rolling resistance tires produce: bad reviews from people who don't know they have a low rolling resistance tire. If range is top priority, then you really cannot go with the CrossClimate2 or other high performance all weather tire.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...9CP7ASXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

FWIW, and it was a while ago, probably 2017/18, I put 235 P7s on a Clarity (18s sold in 17) and they were noisy, I did not like them. I tried them because they were rated well on the Volt forum. I guess I was running mostly Michelin Pilot around that time, and started to go to dedicated X-ice winter tires after that.

 

[highland58]

I am on the fence between 235 OR 245 on 19 inch stock wheels. Have you notice any dip in range with 43PSI? Could you share few pictures from the back of the car?

I could not see a lot of difference with higher pressure. I traded in the FE for a GT and I have the same tires in 255/45/20 on it. Somebody else had the 245s on their FE.

 

[silverelan]

I could not see a lot of difference with higher pressure. I traded in the FE for a GT and I have the same tires in 255/45/20 on it. Somebody else had the 245s on their FE.

Did you drive on the GT's stock Continentals much before you swapped out to the CC2s? I'm wondering about grip (acceleration, cornering, wet road), efficiency, noise, and ride comfort.

 

[highland58]

Did you drive on the GT's stock Continentals much before you swapped out to the CC2s? I'm wondering about grip (acceleration, cornering, wet road), efficiency, noise, and ride comfort.

I drove on the stock tires for a week or two. The stock tires did not grip as well, if the road was even slightly wet, they would spin quite a bit if I punched it. The CC2s still spin some on the wet road when I step on it, but more controlled even then. The traction on dry roads seems better with the CC2s, the stock tires have less grip, some spin with the stock tires, uneven traction. The CC2s are very good on wet roads, I have not had the rear break loose on any corners so far. The noise level is good, they don't seem appreciably louder than the stock tires.

 

[mkhuffman]

I drove on the stock tires for a week or two. The stock tires did not grip as well, if the road was even slightly wet, they would spin quite a bit if I punched it. The CC2s still spin some on the wet road when I step on it, but more controlled even then. The traction on dry roads seems better with the CC2s, the stock tires have less grip, some spin with the stock tires, uneven traction. The CC2s are very good on wet roads, I have not had the rear break loose on any corners so far. The noise level is good, they don't seem appreciably louder than the stock tires.

Is the comfort any better? There is a "bounce" with my GT on rough roads, and I wonder if a different tire would help. I know it does not help with the Premium, at least from what others have posted. But the GT has a different suspension, and I wonder if you noticed any change in that area. Probably just letting some air out of the tires would help, but that will have a big range impact.

Do you have the CC2s at 40 psi?

 

[highland58]

Is the comfort any better? There is a "bounce" with my GT on rough roads, and I wonder if a different tire would help. I know it does not help with the Premium, at least from what others have posted. But the GT has a different suspension, and I wonder if you noticed any change in that area. Probably just letting some air out of the tires would help, but that will have a big range impact.

Do you have the CC2s at 40 psi?

I have them about that pressure, yes. When I test drove the GT, I tried to determine if the suspension felt any different, but I could not really tell any difference. On rough roads it does bounce some yes, but not excessively. I had thought about trying to get the GTPE for the Magneride, but I did not get a chance to drive one before this one became available. I'm resigned to the fact that this is a 5000 lb car and will do that. It's not a Cadillac, but not a RAM 3500 dually either.

 

[mkhuffman]

On rough roads it does bounce some yes, but not excessively. I had thought about trying to get the GTPE for the Magneride, but I did not get a chance to drive one before this one became available. I'm resigned to the fact that this is a 5000 lb car and will do that. It's not a Cadillac, but not a RAM 3500 dually either.

That is the same way I feel about it. But if there is a solution to make the ride smoother, I am interested. I really didn't want the GTPE, but the Magneride would have been really great.

 

[Djynn81]

Look at these tires any update on efficiency?
I’m going with 245/45 r20

 

[RMoore]

Interesting to see a revival of this thread since I've been wondering about different tires as well. I would place a premium on safer handling and perhaps comfort over range so would consider changing to this tire. If one buys new tires from the get go, what do you do with the tires that came with the car. Can one sell those? Do people buy slightly used tires? Would the dealer swap or would you have to pay them the entire cost of the new tires?

 

[highland58]

Interesting to see a revival of this thread since I've been wondering about different tires as well. I would place a premium on safer handling and perhaps comfort over range so would consider changing to this tire. If one buys new tires from the get go, what do you do with the tires that came with the car. Can one sell those? Do people buy slightly used tires? Would the dealer swap or would you have to pay them the entire cost of the new tires?

I have been able to sell the original tires to the tire dealer. I got $50 per tire for the original tires on my GT. There are also used tire places that may buy your used tires. It depends partially on how much demand there is for a particular size of tire. If you want to go that route, I would recommend talking to them before you go in to buy the tire.

 

[silverelan]

Maybe it’s just me, but I really don’t like the aesthetics of the CC2s. The tread pattern grates on me for some reason. Unfortunately there isn’t an all-weather tire that comes close to the CC2’s performance in snow.

I did see that the Vredestein Quatrac Pro is superior to the CC2 on wet roads, so that’s a possibility.

 

[Mathington]

I have been trying to find the best OEM size tires for my Mach-E that have the lowest rolling resistance but there seems to be very little information on the market that compares the efficiency of EV tires.

I would assume that the best option may be Michelin as that seems to be what Tesla put on their Model 3 and Y but this may just be a pricing decision on Tesla's part, not efficiency. I would like to know what other options are out there that could be better so if anyone has tested other tires, please let me know your efficiency changes vs the stock Mach-E tires!

 

[mkhuffman]

I have been trying to find the best OEM size tires for my Mach-E that have the lowest rolling resistance but there seems to be very little information on the market that compares the efficiency of EV tires.

I share this frustration. I expect the situation will get better before I need new tires, because more and more people will be looking for low rolling resistance options. Probably Tire Rack will lead the way.

 

[P. T. Magoo]

Great thread! I am seriously considering these for winter tires, if I can get them fitted to an 18" wheel. Love the idea of quiet, aggressive traction in snow and willing to sacrifice some range in the winter.

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