Is the Mach-E really 7 years behind Tesla?

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No can do: The weight of the Mach-E plus trailer will exceed what I can tow with the RV (even with a very expensive aluminum trailer).

Only other option is flat towing the Mach-E and I doubt that will be doable.
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It might be possible. Most GM and Ford vehicles with RWD allowed them to be towed with the front wheels (and steering locked) on the ground.
 

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Don't you live in Hawaii? Yeah, you won't see a lot of efficiency gain with a heat pump! LOL.! What you would get out of the system is that it's simpler and less costly than the alternative. I'm sure that would be a prime motivator for Ford to go this route, which they most likely will.
95% of our driving uses neither heat nor a/c. In fact, we use heat more than airconditioning in this part of Hawaii. If I'm unlucky I might use airconditioning on any vehicle once a month at the most when I'm forced to go to Kona.
 

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If that's what it takes to own a BEV, then expect them to only remain a small niche. Very few people would put up with having to do that. It's impractical and unrealistic.
Not true. Most BEV customers will dirve in local areaas, and very few need to travel for from their homes and need a hotel. And if they do travel, renting a hybrid for just one trip is easier and less bothersome than searching and waiting for a charger.
 

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Not true. Most BEV customers will dirve in local areaas, and very few need to travel for from their homes and need a hotel. And if they do travel, renting a hybrid for just one trip is easier and less bothersome than searching and waiting for a charger.
I think most people will fall back on an ICE vehicle they own and take that. In another 10 to 20 years it might be different, but right now we're all early in the EV transition.
 


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MME EPA numbers aren't out yet, but Ford's estimates are surely pretty close... 270 miles projected on the AWD ER, 98.8 kWh full battery (88 usable). 270 / 88 = 3.07 miles/kWh.

Model Y AWD LR 316 miles range, 75 kWh full battery (est. ~72 usable). 316 / 72 = 4.39 miles/kWh.

Even if you tweak the usable battery up for the MY, and tweak the MME EPA range up a little, it's still not close.
From what we've been hearing the E4X may be more like 300, so ~3.4. Of course the EX targeted 300 and is likely to be higher, so maybe 3.75.
 

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I read a science fiction book at my dealer while waiting for my Fusion Hybrid annual oil and filter change. And that is the ONLY schedule maintenence it ever needs. As for chaging I rather do it overnight at my home while I sleep. As I have posted before, driving for over the EV range and searching for a charger on the road is stupid and inefficient.
Well there is the engine air filter too. Spark plugs at 100k. coolant changes at 150k, accessory belts at 150k.

Other than that, everything is the same as an EV (cabin air filter, windshield washer fluid, tire rotation, etc)
 

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You might want to research modern heat pumps before you accuse others of being ill informed. Your statement might have been true a few decades ago. Here you go: Geothermal heat pump


Five statements, each incorrect. You might want to read the last few pages of this thread. All of this has already been covered.
Good one.

Switch the ball, maybe he won’t notice.

Geothermal systems are not heat pumps that draw heat from the air. Are you planning to park your EV over a well?

I know modern heat pumps and my statements are accurate. Improvements in efficiencies have improved them over heat pumps of 30 years ago, but that’s liking putting sugar on pig slop.

Modern heat pumps lose all effectiveness at 15 degrees. You can run them all day. At freezing they are barely functional.

Use the right tool for the right job. No one in Michigan is heating their home with an electric heat pump. Only a few are spending the tens of thousands of dollars to install geothermal.
 

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Good one.

Switch the ball, maybe he won’t notice.

Geothermal systems are not heat pumps that draw heat from the air. Are you planning to park your EV over a well?
Switch the ball?
Gee, you can't even remember what you wrote. You probably should get that checked out. You are the one that insulted another member for being "Ill Informed" and You are the one that used residential heat pumps as an example. I responded to that example. Let me refresh your memory about what you wrote:
Are you than ill informed? How many of your neighbors heat their homes with heat pump systems? Heat Pump systems are designed for mild climates. As the ambient temperature drops near freezing the 'cost' of pulling heat from the frigid air approaches that of employing resistive heat.
Where in your post did you write an air to air heat pump? You didn't. You're post included all heat pumps. BTW, tens of thousands of dollars??? Where did you pick up that number since you didn't even know about Geothermal? Do a little more googling after you read this thread. Perhaps some contractors charge that much, my buddy just paid about $12k.

As far as your statements being accurate, no they are not and you clearly don't understand heat pumps nor have you actually read this thread. If you understood heat pumps or read this thread you'd understand that a heat pump is just one component of a HVAC system. The mere fact that you talk about a heat pump drawing heat from the air proves you either haven't read the information here, or you can't comprehend it. There are other places to draw heat from when the air is too cold.

If you want to discuss HVAC intelligently, read the information here, watch the videos. If you simply want to make an uninformed rant, please continue as you are. Let me help you a little bit. A heat pump isn't an entire HVAC system. It is one part of that system. How the entire system is designed determines how effective and efficient it will be. Like a heat pump in a geothermal system is effective far below freezing, a properly designed HVAC system that includes a heat pump can be effective far below freezing. Read the thread, perhaps you'll learn something. Or do you think you know more about automotive manufacturing than one of the preeminent authorities in the field? You with what, zero knowledge and zero experience? Yeah, you're probably a lot more informed than Sandy Munro. Duh.
 

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With my employer discount codes -- though keep in mind there are also plenty of deal and travel web sites offering rental discount codes -- I can rent a full size car from Enterprise for $189 for a full week. That's with unlimited mileage (I'd have to pay for the gas obviously), and that's including taxes and fees. For an extra $1.25, they'll also offset carbon emissions from that rental.

And they'll pick me up from my house!

Mr. McQueen, I'm ready to take this plunge. I'm selling my only vehicle and buying a BEV. I will rent if I need to travel by car to pretty much anyplace outside Phoenix metro other than Tucson and maybe Flagstaff. (I'm not 100% certain if the SR MME can make it to Flagstaff, but I think it can if I stop in Anthem for electrons.)
 

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With my employer discount codes -- though keep in mind there are also plenty of deal and travel web sites offering rental discount codes -- I can rent a full size car from Enterprise for $189 for a full week. That's with unlimited mileage (I'd have to pay for the gas obviously), and that's including taxes and fees. For an extra $1.25, they'll also offset carbon emissions from that rental.

And they'll pick me up from my house!

Mr. McQueen, I'm ready to take this plunge. I'm selling my only vehicle and buying a BEV. I will rent if I need to travel by car to pretty much anyplace outside Phoenix metro other than Tucson and maybe Flagstaff. (I'm not 100% certain if the SR MME can make it to Flagstaff, but I think it can if I stop in Anthem for electrons.)
i am a HUGE AHL hockey fan in Bako CA. I plan on driving my MME to Tucson to watch a Bako/Tucson game. The season afterwards when Palm Springs comes into the league I am hoping for a triple header. Ontario, Palm Springs and Tuscan
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