Advertisement



Is the Mach-E really 7 years behind Tesla?

Cnote

Active Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2020
Messages
31
Reaction score
48
Location
Texas
Vehicles
2017 Toyota highlander, 2014 Corvette Stingray, 2021 Mach E premium SR RWD
Country flag
I really don't get buying a Mach-E for "around town" when I could just get a used Leaf if all I wanted was a grocery getter. I just can't wrap my head around it, honestly.
It's not a difficult concept. The fact that you think a car is just a grocery getter because someone doesn't road trip in it is silly. It will be my main vehicle. Who cares if I don't road trip in it? If you've read any other threads on this forum you will see other people talking about using their ice vehicles as road trip cars as well so it's not some strange idea.
 

GoGoGadgetMachE

Well-Known Member
First Name
Michael
Joined
Jan 23, 2020
Messages
1,343
Reaction score
2,618
Location
Ohio
First Name
Michael
Vehicles
2013 Ford Fusion Energi, 2021 Mach-E First Edition (ordered)
Country flag
I'll rent a car for certain trips that are business related. Many times the rental is less expensive than the depreciation factor on the cars I own. For example, if I have to drive to Oklahoma City to visit our operations there, I am renting. Cost for three days plus gas (about $100-120) is so much less than the 900 miles roundtrip on my car (soon to be a MACH E) at $0.575 per mile or $517.

I also travel a lot (well I did before COVID) and so I have over 20 free days with National now. Using those free days for family trips is awesome. We have rented Expeditions or Tahoes on ski trips to Colorado and New Mexico. It us much easier for four people and their ski stuff to spread out in a big SUV. Sometimes I use the free days, sometimes I pay for the rentals. It just depends on cost.

Just because I'll own a BEV, doesn't mean that I won't rent a car.
all of this.

My company actually requires I rent a car for longer-distance driving (comes down to liability/insurance reasons)... and I have regularly lost National days because they build up so fast.
 

Nak

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jan 5, 2020
Messages
406
Reaction score
446
Location
Camas, Washington
First Name
Mike
Vehicles
Tesla Model Y Performance, Tesla Model 3, 1992 K1500 Blazer
Country flag
That said, I do look forward to the Mach-E being quieter. My OEM tires are just about worn out, might go for some quieter ones in case that helps in the meantime.
I just put Vredestein Quatrac Pros on My Y. I had tried the Bridgestone Quiettracks, but returned them. The Quatracs are 4 db quieter than the Bridgestones. They are showing about 2% more efficient as well, even though the Quiettracks are supposed to have lower rolling resistance. The ride is better with a more luxury feel and the wet handling is hands down better than the Quiettracks. I haven't had a chance yet to push them in dry conditions; the Quiettracks were excellent when pushed hard in the dry. Tire Rack tests show the Quiettracks better in the snow, but they aren't "Mountain and Snowflake" rated like the Quatracs. The Vredesteins are cheaper by a good chunk, but the Quiettracks are rated for twice the life. What's interesting is that My efficiency is slightly worse with 19" wheels than the stock 21s. (19s are supposed to be about a 7% - 8% improvement over the 21s.) The aftermarket wheels I'm using aren't aero, apparently the stock 21" rims are very aero. With the 21's I was pretty much getting the EPA rated range at 65 mph. So far about 2% worse with the new feet, but that could easily change either way as the rubber breaks in.
 

LYTMCQ

Well-Known Member
First Name
Lyt
Joined
Feb 2, 2020
Messages
1,947
Reaction score
972
Location
Portland
First Name
Lyt
Vehicles
Telsa Model 3 LR AWD
Country flag
In the FWIW department, I just went to the Hyundai USA page to build a Kona EV. No option to add one in and none shown under standard equipment.
Don’t think the heat pumps show up as a option to order, just come with the car.
 

eastern refugee

Well-Known Member
First Name
Rich
Joined
Dec 11, 2019
Messages
394
Reaction score
356
Location
california
First Name
Rich
Vehicles
2021 Mach E First Edition (Ordered)
Occupation
insurance agent
Country flag
It's not a difficult concept. The fact that you think a car is just a grocery getter because someone doesn't road trip in it is silly. It will be my main vehicle. Who cares if I don't road trip in it? If you've read any other threads on this forum you will see other people talking about using their ice vehicles as road trip cars as well so it's not some strange idea.
everyone has the right to choose. For me I am trading in 4 ICE cars to get 2 MME. Several reasons.
1. I want to leave a healthy planet for my kids and generations to come

2. I love the idea of doing long road trips just to do it. I cannot wait. I have my first one planned to drive from SoCal to port orchard Washington to me my son in the navy and his wife. Weather and gas be damned.

if people chose ICE or Hydrogen or horse and buggy that is their choice. In short no one has to rationalize why they are/are not doing something. As long as you are choosing for you that is awesome.

the discussion should be more of what you plan to do rather then why. The why is up to you. The what is the fascinating aspect. Now I pray my car is here by mid December.
 

macchiaz-o

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jonathan
Joined
Nov 25, 2019
Messages
2,273
Reaction score
4,323
Location
Valley of the Sun
First Name
Jonathan
Vehicles
Fiesta » InfB/LSG 2SR
Country flag
Taken off the Enterprise website.
At Enterprise web site for:
  • Portland City Center
  • 445 Sw Pine St
  • Portland, OR 97204
Regular rate shown, 1 week rental, no discounts applied:

Screenshot_20201014-214140.png


About $30 lower price after putting in my employer's discount number:

Screenshot_20201014-214510.png
 

LYTMCQ

Well-Known Member
First Name
Lyt
Joined
Feb 2, 2020
Messages
1,947
Reaction score
972
Location
Portland
First Name
Lyt
Vehicles
Telsa Model 3 LR AWD
Country flag
At Enterprise web site for:
Wrong vehicle. Wrong time.. Try SUV. Try holiday peak. The reality of not using the EV for family trips that need lots of room, AWD and peak seasons.

But back to the actual point vs. trying to cherry pick car rental sites. People already stretching to buy EV at a $15k premium are not going to want to spend more time and money renting vehicles for times the EV can’t do the job.

Flip side is that in two car family, one EV and one family vehicle will cut that famly’s transport emissions by 50%. A more realistic scenario.

My purchase requirements on my second EV, it has to do the job.

Mach3 can do the job, daily commute, the shore trips in Summer, the ski trips in Winter.
 

trutolife27

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2020
Messages
957
Reaction score
4,678
Location
kentucky
Vehicles
Lincoln mkx , Ford f-150
Country flag
I just wanna know why we talking about renting a car now. I know some threads get off topic a little but this one went off that rails. It has gotten worse than when we all was 21 and picked up the hot chic and the bar. Woke up the next day and she looked worse than the humpback of Notre dame.

See got me off-topic. We went from push-button starts to we want it all right now, tesla car made into the mache. Heating cars, how it works and now on renting cars.

Let's just get back to how tesla finally has competition or why the hell is there a start button.
 

LYTMCQ

Well-Known Member
First Name
Lyt
Joined
Feb 2, 2020
Messages
1,947
Reaction score
972
Location
Portland
First Name
Lyt
Vehicles
Telsa Model 3 LR AWD
Country flag
I just wanna know why we talking about renting a car now. I know some threads get off topic a little but this one went off that rails.
At 57 pages, just about every thread is going to be a bit off the original topic.
 

Bond007

Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2020
Messages
17
Reaction score
7
Location
WV
Vehicles
RDX
Country flag
Tesla just updated the range of Model Y to 326 miles. They’re pulling ahead from the competition every-time at least in range and performance metrics.
 

jlauro

Well-Known Member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 29, 2019
Messages
476
Reaction score
313
Location
Owosso, MI
First Name
John
Vehicles
Charger R/T AWD, Rav4, future Mach-E
Country flag
Tesla just updated the range of Model Y to 326 miles. They’re pulling ahead from the competition every-time at least in range and performance metrics.
Also ahead in battery production.

If they can do something about their quality and service before the competition starts to ramp up in a year they could continue to dominate BEV market past 2021.
 

JayTee

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jeff
Joined
Sep 15, 2020
Messages
691
Reaction score
334
Location
Broomfield, Colorado, USA
First Name
Jeff
Vehicles
Mazda CX-5
Occupation
Sales Analysis
Country flag
Tesla taking many hits with so many problems still. People are so in love with the blind fandom they are accepting so many problems.

Right now in China, tesla sales are so bad they are getting ready to idle the plant for another two weeks after being idle for 1 week. Supply at the tesla dealer in china is so high they are sending them to the European market and other places.

We have all been there as a kid. become a fan of a toy or item and then when you get it, well it's really not that great.

I'm not questioning the accuracy of this info, but I'd like to know the source if possible.
 

JayTee

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jeff
Joined
Sep 15, 2020
Messages
691
Reaction score
334
Location
Broomfield, Colorado, USA
First Name
Jeff
Vehicles
Mazda CX-5
Occupation
Sales Analysis
Country flag
I'll rent a car for certain trips that are business related. Many times the rental is less expensive than the depreciation factor on the cars I own. For example, if I have to drive to Oklahoma City to visit our operations there, I am renting. Cost for three days plus gas (about $100-120) is so much less than the 900 miles roundtrip on my car (soon to be a MACH E) at $0.575 per mile or $517.

I also travel a lot (well I did before COVID) and so I have over 20 free days with National now. Using those free days for family trips is awesome. We have rented Expeditions or Tahoes on ski trips to Colorado and New Mexico. It us much easier for four people and their ski stuff to spread out in a big SUV. Sometimes I use the free days, sometimes I pay for the rentals. It just depends on cost.

Just because I'll own a BEV, doesn't mean that I won't rent a car.

Not to mention that for those longer trips, most of your charging would be done at a comparatively expensive DC charger. Versus today's price of gas, the ice car is probably cheaper.
 



 









Advertisement


Top