Another GTPE Bites the Dust After 22S41!

[phil]

One has to wonder if they decide to ramp up this OTA instead of all at once.

One does indeed. Or perhaps tone down the reported failure rate/criteria in the software.

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[scoopman]

One does indeed. Or perhaps tone down the reported failure rate/criteria in the software.

Not sure that's something I would do now that there's litigation pending. Also, not sure but one would think they've already filtered out what they would think were false alarms.

 

[Rabidsquirrel22]

I definitely think that's the case. Your info regarding corporate being off this past week was also very eye-opening.

Only Monday the 4th was a corporate holiday at Ford, not the whole week.

 

[Rabidsquirrel22]

I work there now so I think I know how it works. This past week wasn’t nearly as much of a ghost town as December. Definitely not fair to say that the whole company was on holiday. I think that statement only really applies to the last work week or two in December lol.

 

[avboughtmache]

Im going to cancel the dealer appointment and turning off the automatic updates. Never wanted these updates

 

[mkhuffman]

Is there reason to believe that GTPEs built after May 25 have different hardware (HVB contactors)? Or will they just have the software "patch" installed from the factory?

My car was built on 6/30 and I wonder what hardware or software changes were made at the factory to address this issue...?

Ford has not officially said but it is believed the new parts were in use starting on May 25. So if that is correct, you should have the new part. And new software.

 

[scoopman]

In case you hadn't seen, the recall software versions now seem to have disappeared from FDRS, so dealers cannot perform the 22S41 recall as filed as of this weekend. Unclear if the OTA has been pulled as well. More here:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/no-hvbjb-software-recall-for-you-recall-the-recall.19486/

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

There will be a steady flood of repairs needed once the OTAs start flowing. We will probably see one a day or more on the forum. It’s because the car will be able to detect a partially fried contractor for the first time. The problem already exists, it just isn’t being detected with the older software until total failure.

I don’t think it’s a problem with the software. It’s sort of like if you install antivirus on your computer for the first time in years, it might detect some preexisting things, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s oversensitive.

This perfectly sums up what I've been thinking is likely the case. I wouldn't be surprised if Ford ends up being surprised by the resulting failure rate and (hopefully) turns this into a h/w recall...

 

[scoopman]

This perfectly sums up what I've been thinking is likely the case. I wouldn't be surprised if Ford ends up being surprised by the resulting failure rate and (hopefully) turns this into a h/w recall...

Funny you would think this. Recall software has apparently been ... recalled? or at least suspended.
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/no-hvbjb-software-recall-for-you-recall-the-recall.19486/

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

Funny you would think this. Recall software has apparently been ... recalled? or at least suspended.
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/no-hvbjb-software-recall-for-you-recall-the-recall.19486/

Full disclosure: I already read that thread ?

 

[Bayviews88]

Even though the circumstances are different, it appears to me that at least to-date, Ford did not take any lessons learned (or took the wrong ones) from the Chevy/GM Bolt EV battery recall debacle.

Whomever in corporate that was in charge of weighing the risk management and replacement cost calculations vs. PR and long term sales calculations made some poor choices.

Looking forward to reading the media articles next week after they review these HVBJB threads and pepper Ford with questions. ?

 

[VegStang]

Mine failed as I was accelerating onto the road (in front of a tesla) out of my neighborhood. I was able to turn off the road onto the next street without hesitation as I knew exactly what was happening because of this forum.

 

[mkhuffman]

Mine failed as I was accelerating onto the road (in front of a tesla) out of my neighborhood. I was able to turn off the road onto the next street without hesitation as I knew exactly what was happening because of this forum.

Hope you made the Tesla eat your exhaust! Or contactor smoke.

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