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Market conditions change, people's finances change, you're assuming folks will just buy it at the increased price. I for one can wait, there is no pressing need to get an electric car. If the private offer is BS then I can just walk away, and if the prices don't work out for you then so can you. Maybe if enough folks walk away just like with housing the prices will come down (in the form of a sale/rebate).
The whole experience overall was not enjoyable, no communications, estimates that were way off I remember on the website in march that said it would be delivered end of July? Once the order was placed no real communication from ford, you almost have to go to these forums to get info, I expected the info to come from official channels or emails. Even this 2023 model year change, I still have not gotten anything official from ford even though the world knows for a couple of days now. I expect ford corporate to be the ones to announce things first then have dealers disseminate details and have news outlets reporting on it, it is backwards now.

Side rant: So unless they officially announce the batteries are made in NA, the tax credit will go down by half right? not fully disappear?
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- The price increase in March 2022 is for new orders. Sure... You can choose to focus on that price, or you can do the rational thing and focus on the prices most people are really paying, which is the price I posted.
You can’t be serious with this statement……

You are on a thread, complaining about a Mach E price that increased this week………

But we can’t compare it with a price increase on the Rivian that happened already 6 months ago? You want us to compare prices from TODAY on the Mach E to Rivian prices from orders LAST YEAR??

What kind of backwards logic is that?

I can’t go back in time and order an R1S last year. So whatever the price was back then is IRRELEVANT to this discussion.

If you want to order a Mach E today, gotta pay todays prices. R1S? Todays prices. Lyriq? You can’t even order one right now.

And like I said at first, the R1S is tens of thousands more. It’s a great car, but it’s significantly more expensive. And it should be (larger, faster, more luxury). Luckily it’s still a decent deal since it’s quality and service is unknown at this point.
 

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2023 i4 prices have already been announced. They removed the fancy driver assists features from the e40 trim and is only available on the AWD M50 trim.

I almost put a $1K nonrefundable deposit in a $66K fully loaded 2023 i4 eDrive40 with adaptive suspension. It's basically the same price as a Model 3 Performance and is somewhere between a Premium 4X and GT trim.
Pricing gets announced and sometimes change mid-year. Even the 2022 Bolts had a price increase mid-year. I would be very surprised if BMW can absorb the increase in component costs without raising prices. So far, Rivian, Ford, Lucid, and Tesla have not been able to do so.
 

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I see what you are saying... But that rational should be viewed in the context that the vast majority of people who will take delivery in the next 12 months or more are locked in to the the price I got. It's not like I'm in the minority to get the price. It's the going rate for almost all current reservation holders.

It's not like only a handful of people will pay the old price. It's the opposite. Only a small percent of people will pay the new price.

The R1T is a decent bargain compared to the GTPE for this of us on multipe waiting lists.

I agree that the R1 is more expensive for people just now trying to get on the list or place a new order. Thankfully many of us aren't in that situation.
The R1S was definitely a bargain……. If you ordered it 3 years ago.

I ordered my Mach E GTPE a year ago and paid $61k with EVERY option after x plan and tax credit.

But how does what I did a year ago and what you did 3 years ago help anyone TODAY?

Answer: it doesn’t.

And you’re wrong about “only a handful will pay the new price.”

Everyone ordering an R1S since March is paying the new price.

Just like everyone ordering a Mach E since yesterday is paying the new price.

And the $63k Mach E GT seems appropriately priced vs the $90k R1S.
 

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Some people buy cars based on price, some people have a specific type of car or a specific car itself and then look for the best price

I would not get the BMW i4 since it’s basically a coupe and not what I was looking for

I was looking at a smallish SUV to replace my Macan, MME fit the bill

Do I believe the i4 is a better car than the MME, yeah probably still doesn’t mean I would buy it even if it was at a better price. BTW even if I feel it’s a better car that doesn’t mean it won’t have its own problems

I can’t wait for the electric Macan to come out, that could be the answer to a small SUV that handles great for that type of car. Of course the catch will be the price. I wanted to put down an order with my Porsche dealer but they wouldn’t take it yet

Plenty more options will be coming out for us to choose, hopefully prices mellow out

I ordered a ix50 and turned it down when it came in since it was too big

My original feeling on the MME was to get rid of it after 3 years and that is why I took the option price. I fee a bit different know but time will tell

edit: I still want to get resolve the bounciness of the car just haven’t decided if the Coilovers are the sole answer since I would have to go under car each time to adjust. Beefier tires and Steeda front sway bar is next on my agenda and hopefully someone will come up with a better suspension that is reasonably priced.
 
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You can’t be serious with this statement……

You are on a thread, complaining about a Mach E price that increased this week………

But we can’t compare it with a price increase on the Rivian that happened already 6 months ago? You want us to compare prices from TODAY on the Mach E to Rivian prices from orders LAST YEAR??

What kind of backwards logic is that?

I can’t go back in time and order an R1S last year. So whatever the price was back then is IRRELEVANT to this discussion.

If you want to order a Mach E today, gotta pay todays prices. R1S? Todays prices. Lyriq? You can’t even order one right now.

And like I said at first, the R1S is tens of thousands more. It’s a great car, but it’s significantly more expensive. And it should be (larger, faster, more luxury). Luckily it’s still a decent deal since it’s quality and service is unknown at this point.
@Eosin has to be a troll or something. They make no sense. He's basically saying Ford should have just had a massive waitlist like Rivian as everyone who's ever going to get a Rivian is on the waitlist so not a single person ever is going to pay the new increased Rivian price so you have to compare it to the old Rivian price, because everyone was so smart and put their name on the waitlist for a startup and not a single person will ever need to order one with today's price. Whereas Ford didn't let you do that because they logically close orders when they know they won't be able to fulfill anymore for that model year.

It is a complete joke and holds zero merit. So pointless to even continue trying to see his point, because he has NO point. It literally ONLY applies to him and anyone else on the early Rivian waitlist making a car buying decision. Most of us here are probably NOT on the early Rivian waitlist where we have a locked in price thousands and thousands of dollar less than the current price. Complete bollocks.
 

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In terms of EV I think the new price is still comparable to other EV competitors. I am sure they will continue to sell as long as the hot used car market remains. But do people really not cross shop EV with traditional ICE? I was cross shopping between MME and a loaded GV70. My MME was 51K Out the door. 44K after tax credit. Loaded GV70 54K out the door. If it was the 2023 MME price and potentially no tax credit, I would definitely go for the GV70. I prefer the EV torque and gas saving, but not for extra cost over comparable ICE. There are also new EV/software problems and road trip charging hassles. The car is also really heavy. Cornered my MME hard at near 60 MPH, thought the car was gonna flip. That big battery weight is just there. The price of GT is enough for a C8 corvette. I know not the same type of car, but still mind blowing to me.
 
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one question im not sure of.. if i placed a deposit in june for the 2022.. will i be considered for a discounted price?
 

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Are price increases for EVs any surprise? This isn't exclusive to Ford. Model X used to be <$100k. Now you can't get one for less than $121k.
 

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Tesla MYP right now at $69990, is $6k cheaper than GTPE with this pricing, if Tesla qualifies for the $7500, it's a no brainer to do a Tesla over a Mach E, specially when you can get higher top speed and no performance limit.
Doesn't the Mach E come with Blue Cruise and Tesla charge $6000 for "Enhanced Autopilot" and another $12000 for "Full Self Driving" (which doesn't really exist yet).
 

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one question im not sure of.. if i placed a deposit in june for the 2022.. will i be considered for a discounted price?
If you ordered a 2022 then you should get the 2022 pricing.

I did not know you could still order a 2022 in June of this year -- didn't Ford close the order bank in April or May?
 

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one question im not sure of.. if i placed a deposit in june for the 2022.. will i be considered for a discounted price?
In June? Orders closed in April. So you most likely have a deposit for a 2023 order which is not price protected
 

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If you ordered a 2022 then you should get the 2022 pricing.

I did not know you could still order a 2022 in June of this year -- didn't Ford close the order bank in April or May?
not sure. i just put a $500 deposit down and filled the order sheet. but dealer said it was pretty much to get me in line.
 
 







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