Official: Ford cuts 2023 Mach-E pricing 🔻 and increasing production 🔺!

[ryi0205]

I don't understand your statement.

Why would you get half the PCO ?

Why wouldn't you get the entire PCO if the certificate is already tied to your order ?

I am banking on the full PCO plus the $3980 price drop when mine comes in....

My Premium 4X came in early last week but I informed the dealer that I will not be taking delivery since it wasn't eligible for a tax credit. I already have a job 2 2021 Premium 4X but wanted to upgrade to the 2022 model that converted to a 2023. With the conversion, I had a $8500 PCO that Ford and my dealer had confirmed. When the new of the price reduction came out, my dealer informed me that with the price reduction and the PCO, I can now take delivery that would he equivalent, if not better, than the tax credit. They provided a deal worksheet that reflected the new msrp for the Premium 4x plus D&D plus tax, license and registration. From this, they subtracted $8500 for a net out the door price of ~$58,000 (after $2k Options rebate). The $8500 price rebate was going to be applied at the point of sale so no waiting for a rebate check. The total included the protection package. The good news is that it appears you should get the full PCO. The bad news is that I am still unable to take delivery because the value of my 2021, after 10 months of ownership, has plummeted and I am only getting offers in the $40k range. The loss from this car would just offset the great value I would get from the 2023. I am still trying to figure out how I can make this work, but it doesn't look promising. It really pains me to not be able to take the 2023 delivery....for now.

The main purpose for the post is to confirm that the full PCO seems to apply on top of the new lower MSRP, at least from what my dealer was offering.

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[Ride_the_lightning]

Help me understand.

I can now buy an MME Premium AWD for about $55k and qualify for the tax credit. That car has a standard range battery, which gets about 220 miles on a full charge.

A $55k MYLR costs about the same, qualifies for the tax credit, and the range is 330 miles.

Why would someone jump at the MME over the MYLR based on price?

I bought that MME. I like it better and it’s a better car than a Tesla. Even sold my higher range Tesla to buy it.

 

[MachHunter]

Anybody else think that the full $6k PCO on the premium PLUS the price reduction is wishful thinking?

That makes my AWD premium $42k up front. It would basically be near the '22 price MINUS the price protection amount between the '22 and the '23.

If we get that, I want your letter number recs ASAP.

Serious question for the group, what do people think the price is gonna be?

*lottery numbers

 

[MachHunter]

My Premium 4X came in early last week but I informed the dealer that I will not be taking delivery since it wasn't eligible for a tax credit. I already have a job 2 2021 Premium 4X but wanted to upgrade to the 2022 model that converted to a 2023. With the conversion, I had a $8500 PCO that Ford and my dealer had confirmed. When the new of the price reduction came out, my dealer informed me that with the price reduction and the PCO, I can now take delivery that would he equivalent, if not better, than the tax credit. They provided a deal worksheet that reflected the new msrp for the Premium 4x plus D&D plus tax, license and registration. From this, they subtracted $8500 for a net out the door price of ~$58,000 (after $2k Options rebate). The $8500 price rebate was going to be applied at the point of sale so no waiting for a rebate check. The total included the protection package. The good news is that it appears you should get the full PCO. The bad news is that I am still unable to take delivery because the value of my 2021, after 10 months of ownership, has plummeted and I am only getting offers in the $40k range. The loss from this car would just offset the great value I would get from the 2023. I am still trying to figure out how I can make this work, but it doesn't look promising. It really pains me to not be able to take the 2023 delivery....for now.

The main purpose for the post is to confirm that the full PCO seems to apply on top of the new lower MSRP, at least from what my dealer was offering.

Sweet Jesus that would be nice.

 

[Electric Goat]

The charging network here in Minnesota is actually pretty good. For those familiar with the region, a friend went from the Twin Cities, north to the rural "Iron Range" (about a 3-hour drive, one-way) just a few weeks ago in the dead of winter. He made it there and back with no problem. Planned ahead and found easily accessible and reliable charging on the way and at his rural destination.

Tell me that you haven't actually looked at the charging map without actually telling me that you haven't looked at the charging map.

Minnesota is a DCFC laggard and even L2 is sparse everywhere north of Duluth

 

[ab13]

You mean like people who go around talking about how Tesla's have poor build quality even though their drivetrains are solid?

I've read many issues with their inverters.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/early-life-inverter-failure.265540/

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...due-to-rear-motor-inverter-defect-185844.html

 

[ArthurDOB]

Tell me that you haven't actually looked at the charging map without actually telling me that you haven't looked at the charging map.

Minnesota is a DCFC laggard and even L2 is sparse everywhere north of Duluth

He and I went to the same hockey tournament for our kids in the Virginia, MN area. I witnessed him easily finding places to charge as I was keenly interested in his experience. Map or no map, they were available.

Tell me that you refuse to believe information that contradicts your beliefs without telling me that you refuse to believe information that contradicts your beliefs.

 

[ArthurDOB]

Dude, you don't even own your car yet. Good luck to you driving it any significant distance in the winter. A standard range mme can't even get up to lake vermillion reliability from the twin cities in the winter. There is ONE conveniently located charger on the way and it's only 60kwh....which translates to 45kwh charge speed in the winter.... if you're lucky. If that charger is down then you're SOL.

Saw this after the other one. No, I don't have it yet. I am simply relating my first-hand experiences with friends who do. One has an MME SR and the other a Lightning. Both of these experiences occurred in the last two weeks north of Cloquet in single digit weather, both above and below zero. If your experience in the cold has been poor, OK. But I am guided by their positive experiences. They prepared well and were rewarded accordingly. I hope to do the same next winter.

 

[jpinFLX]

Do we think they will re-issue window stickers for those not delivered yet?

To answer my own question, yes, yes we will. Mine was re-issued with the updated MSRP.

 

[KevinS]

Hey I'm out in the wide open. Not secrecy here. I don't work for Tesla. And currently I don't have any investment in TSLA (sold on Friday), although I plan to buy in on the next dip.

Anyone who was into electric cars and their future 5 or more years ago would inevitably be linked with Tesla as they were the only ones really trying.

Ford Mach-E is a good car. I actually like the looks more than the Model Y for sure.

If Mach-E had dependable DC charging and speed, I would recommend it.

However the fact at current prices the Model Y gets you more range and charging benefits is probably the winner for most people, unless you really don't care about the option of long distance driving at all.

If you're going to pimp Tesla, take it somewhere else that's actually a Tesla forum, or take it to the appropriate sub-section of this forum:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/forums/mach-e-vs-the-competition.13/

 

[MachHunter]

To answer my own question, yes, yes we will. Mine was re-issued with the updated MSRP.

Mine flipped late last night. Now we wait on the PCO confirmation…

 

[Shelbeast]

How exactly did they "steal" the tax incentive?

When shopping around and buying a Mach-E, I negotiated. Every dealer/GM told me, You are getting tax benefit. It was even on my Ford order on the Ford website. They made the 7500 in big numbers and subtracted it from my cost to show me how I was getting a great deal. After Ford raised the prices in mid-2022, now, the benefit is mostly gone. They now have taken the cost down as of 1/1/2023. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see the scheme there. Jacked up the prices, IRS no more benefit, prices come down. It clearly shows the prices were based on tax benefit. And to top it off, they are upping production.

 

[RickMachE]

You are not living in reality. You seem like the type of person who goes out and pumps-up what some sales/marketing guy writes on a piece of paper.

I was one of those 50k MachEs that got recalled. Do you know the inconvenience/impact it had on my car? Zero. My HVJB had zero problems, and the recall was solved via an OTA update. The was the case for the majority of the 50k that were recalled. Very few actually had to be taken to a dealership.

The software update did not fix anything except the car being driveable instead of bricking. Very few is not correct, many have had failures. What percent no one knows, but it's not "very few".

2 months ?

My Lightning was shipped from MI to CA in exactly 14 days.

Come on - is rail that bad from Mexico ?

Geesh - why can't they put mine on a ship and drop it off in Port Hueneme, CA ???

My car was completed 3/1/22. It didn't ship until May and wasn't received until May 17th. That's just reality.

I purchased my GT PE on Jan 2nd. I called Ford this afternoon and asked about the refund of funds for it. They knew what I was asking about, but had NO information. I was told to call finance dept at the dealership I purchased the car from. supposedly, thats where the refund or whatever is going to come from. I sure hope they will make all of us whole that purchased the 2023 Mach-E's since Jan 1 2023.

Expecting a refund the same weeks as the announcement is simply crazy. You will be contacted by Ford (as the press release says). Until then, sit tight.

 

[MacherAWD]

The software update did not fix anything except the car being driveable instead of bricking. Very few is not correct, many have had failures. What percent no one knows, but it's not "very few".

But keeping the car drivable was huge. Car stopping on the highway, or intersection, dangerous and inconvenient. Car being able to be driven to a dealer, priceless.

Also does anyone know, as a SR ever had a HVBJB fail? I have yet to see one, I know they make slightly less power, and charge a bit slower, so maybe that is just the buffer they need?

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