I'm Done - 2023 Powertrain & High Voltage Battery Failure

[Logal727]

You can browse those as well I don't mind. Every car is gonna have a subset of bad issues, but Mach E the sample size is larger (this is a way bigger forum), plus the amount of issues posted here are like x20 the amount posted on any other car forum. It's to the point where you can't ignore it, and I don't like that everyone acts like it's fine. It's a problem and Ford should pay attention. Like some other poster said, it's been 3 years and cars are still having the same problem.

Source: Trust me bro

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[HuntingPudel]

Every vehicle has its problems. My Blazer’s primary problem is the bow tie in the grille. ?? It did blow its motor two weeks after I bought it. The chassis had >1,000,000 miles on it at that point, so… 19 years later I blew up the rear ring and pinion. I won’t tell you how many U-joints I broke or about the driveshaft I pretzeled. ICE cars, amIrite? ?‍?

 

[Shayne]

lots of leaping to conclusions... maybe HVBJB... maybe not.

Could be another issue and not the HVBJB. A lot of owners still get SVS and it clears 10 mins later. Either way, still a drag.

The problem is obvious. You can press OK to the idiot messages. It is the plastic gear selection knob that does not rotate that is the problem as you can not put it in gear and drive it. That is the main problem what is causing it ?‍

 

[bruceski88]

Source: Trust me bro

As a stockholder I am not happy either, Ford has the highest warranty costs in the industry. It is effecting the bottom line it is so bad. Wall Street is after Farley to fix it. If it doesn’t get fixed in a few years I suspect we will see a new CEO.

 

[devmach-e]

Anyone defending this, please get off the kool-aid.

Defending what, the OP's desire to return the car? Or the Mach-E/Ford?

I read the OPs original complaint last year about the car not working properly. None of the 4 issues they brought up would qualify for a lemon-law buyback. However, this issue might.

 

[devmach-e]

You can browse those as well I don't mind. Every car is gonna have a subset of bad issues, but Mach E the sample size is larger (this is a way bigger forum), plus the amount of issues posted here are like x20 the amount posted on any other car forum. It's to the point where you can't ignore it, and I don't like that everyone acts like it's fine. It's a problem and Ford should pay attention. Like some other poster said, it's been 3 years and cars are still having the same problem.

If I refused to buy a product because of the negative reviews, or issues reported on forums, I would never own a new product, whether that's a new surround sound stereo receiver, smart TV, electric oven, toaster, or a car. That includes the 2 cars I have now. Both of which have been pretty much flawless for me, but if according to the car forums, I would've been buying lemons that would be spending most of their time in the shop. Same for the previous 6 or 7 cars.

 

[macchiaz-o]

It's always, always down to ego.

Yep. That's also true for the die hard Ford people and even our Elon trolls like grinder/newmme.

Luckily there's still lots of great info for us to share and learn here. It's a much better experience than Nextdoor or Facebook.

 

[SWO]

The problem is obvious. You can press OK to the idiot messages. It is the plastic gear selection knob that does not rotate that is the problem as you can not put it in gear and drive it. That is the main problem what is causing it ?‍

It thinks it's still plugged in.

 

[MacherAWD]

I think 50% of people just suck, regardless of which car we drive, job we do, just have to accept it. Except for tesla people, then its like 75% suck, but having said that before I bought my MME I would have said 75% of Mustang people also suck, but that is just for the ICE drivers

 

[ArthurDOB]

I came to the conclusion that you should never buy a 1st generation EV. Not only are you dealing with the battery components, but also all the Software gremlins.

I concluded ages ago to never buy the first generation of any car. I always thought three years was the absolute minimum a model had to be on the road before making the decision to buy, at least for me. That's a substantial part of the reason I waited to get a '23 MME

 

[devmach-e]

I concluded ages ago to never buy the first generation of any car. I always thought three years was the absolute minimum a model had to be on the road before making the decision to buy, at least for me. That's a substantial part of the reason I waited to get a '23 MME

If we all followed that advice, no new models would ever get released. Or only rental car companies would buy them. I've bought 3 cars in their first model year. None of them ever gave me trouble.

 

[ArthurDOB]

Sell it. I sold mine and my life got 200 times better.

I wonder what you're doing on here, then, since you clearly weren't happy with the car. Oh, well....

 

[Vulnox]

You can browse those as well I don't mind. Every car is gonna have a subset of bad issues, but Mach E the sample size is larger (this is a way bigger forum), plus the amount of issues posted here are like x20 the amount posted on any other car forum. It's to the point where you can't ignore it, and I don't like that everyone acts like it's fine. It's a problem and Ford should pay attention. Like some other poster said, it's been 3 years and cars are still having the same problem.

It's definitely not x20 any other car forum, that's just flat out untrue. There are, as a whole, a fairly limited number of issues here and most of them are comparably pretty small, like profiles not sticking for some owners. There are also WAY more MME owners than most any other model BEV, especially i4s, outside of Tesla and maybe the Bolt. Even if 95% of MME owners had that profiles (ours has been fine) issue, it would still be a smaller issue than 10% of owners needing a motor replaced. The only "true" MME issue that I think most worry about is the junction box. You also went on to say, "it's been 3 years and cars are still having the same problem". Show your work with actual evidence please, assuming you mean the junction box.

Show all the 2022 late build and 2023 MMEs that have, with actual evidence, had the junction box issue and not just a thread where someone said "oh no its the HVBJB issue again" because someone got a stop safely message. It's ABSOLUTELY a problem that shouldn't have existed to begin with, but to claim it's happening going on 3 years is, as far as I have seen anyway, not a genuine claim.

As to your buddy with the Lightning battery replacement, assuming you didn't just make it up, it's well known that there is a recall on a small number of Lightnings for the battery. They stopped production for two weeks to work it out. Not the first, nor will they be the last, manufacturer to issue battery recalls. We are over 100 years into ICE vehicle development and they have recalls still on engines, transmissions, etc. BMW ESPECIALLY has them. So why that's an looooooooooool thing I don't know, unless again you are just trying to prop an ego up on clouds of imagination. Either way, good luck with the i4. I am glad you know the i4 won't ever have a battery recall or anything to that effect, the rose colored glasses of people that just get a vehicle and think nothing bad will ever happen is sure an interesting one to watch.

 

[ArthurDOB]

If we all followed that advice, no new models would ever get released. Or only rental car companies would buy them. I've bought 3 cars in their first model year. None of them ever gave me trouble.

That's why I said that this rule was one I followed. You go for it. Everyone is going to do whatever they want to do. I'm happy to wait and have no regrets in doing so.

 

[ragequit310]

Update
Thank you for all the comments. I want to clarify that I am not trying to troll with this post - I am just showing my experience. I wanted to like and love this car but it keeps having problems.

I tried calling my Ford dealership and they are of no help. They don’t know when they have an appointment available and they refuse to send over a tow truck - they tell me it’s my responsibility.

Although I agree with the other posters that cars including BMW and Tesla all have lemon cars and it is outside of the control of a car company. The car company can control how they deal with problems when they happen. Ford takes no responsibility - that is disappointing.

In the past with BMW I had two problems (a flat tire and a broken fast charge port after 28k miles). In both occasions BMW sent over a tow truck free of charge and I got help almost immediately.

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