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I definitely think they can take 5-10 minutes out of the charge curve and things will still be okay. The main limitation while DC charging is the size of the input cables, 100 kW is about the max continuous charge rate.

I'd also like to see an intelligent charge algorithm based on ambient temperature. When it's cold outside, the car should charge faster than when it's hot, since cold cables can carry more current (assuming the battery starts at the correct temp).
I've seen you mention that before, and I was wondering: Is it the max continuous rate just like electrical code wiring, i.e., you can run 80% of the rated current if you intend to run it for longer than 3 hours, or is it the "absolute" maximum? Hope that makes sense.
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The Model Y Perf can run 11.7-12.0 right now at 112-114mph. The Y dual motor LR runs 12.7-12.9@110-111 stock and 12.3-12.6@112-114 with the $3K acceleration “boost” OTA. But, they also go 135-155mph on top end dependent on model trim. No big deal here in the U.S. for 99.999% of us. ?

*If* the GT gets 8-10 secs of full power it’s a 12.0-12.2 1/4 mile vehicle, trap speeds easily at 108-110mph, depending. If they let it eat for 12-15 secs you’ll see the full potential of 11.7-11.9@ 113-115mph trap speeds.

Bet: Ford only allows the full Monty in Unbridled mode. ??‍♂
My math might be a little fuzzy, but why do they have to open 12-15 sec to see a 11.7-11.9 sec 1/4 mile? It would seem 11.9 sec is all that is needed. Lol!
And for the record, I hit the 5 sec limit almost daily in my GTPE and the bigger effect to my driving experience is at or after 70mph. It’s a turd ? on the highway. Embarrassing especially against ICE cars that are getting into their powerband at 70.
 

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My math might be a little fuzzy, but why do they have to open 12-15 sec to see a 11.7-11.9 sec 1/4 mile? It would seem 11.9 sec is all that is needed. Lol!
And for the record, I hit the 5 sec limit almost daily in my GTPE and the bigger effect to my driving experience is at or after 70mph. It’s a turd ? on the highway. Embarrassing especially against ICE cars that are getting into their powerband at 70.
Whatever they do will be an improvement, right? ?. As long as it gets a full 12 secs that will guarantee it goes a full 1/4 mile with no issue, after that is just bonus and quicker to VMax of 124mph.
 

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My math might be a little fuzzy, but why do they have to open 12-15 sec to see a 11.7-11.9 sec 1/4 mile? It would seem 11.9 sec is all that is needed. Lol!
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So we can do our dry hops before lining up at the tree? ?‍♂?
 


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Hard to believe Ford will increase the 5 second power limit for my pre-June 2022 GT that still has an unfried HVBJB. After all, Ford has acknowledged that original HVBJB design is defective under the current power limitation scheme. I wonder if this will be a two tier OTA update : an increased full power time limit for cars with the new and improved HVBJB, and nothing for us poor saps still living with the ticking time bomb that is the original (defective) pre-June 2022 HVBJB? Will I need to fry my HVBJB and get the replacement part before I get the increased time limit OTA?
 

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Hard to believe Ford will increase the 5 second power limit for my pre-June 2022 GT that still has an unfried HVBJB. After all, Ford has acknowledged that original HVBJB design is defective under the current power limitation scheme. I wonder if this will be a two tier OTA update : an increased full power time limit for cars with the new and improved HVBJB, and nothing for us poor saps still living with the ticking time bomb that is the original (defective) pre-June 2022 HVBJB? Will I need to fry my HVBJB and get the replacement part before I get the increased time limit OTA?
I suspect they're coming to the realization all the early HVBJBs are going to fail anyways, might as well not hamper the reputation when it's already tarnished there.

Personally, I found it very easy to trigger the failure when the temps were hot. Use the 80/80/80/8 rule.

80+ mph, 80+ degrees, 80+% throttle, 8 seconds. BAM, HVBJB fail.

I just made that up...obviously...but it's what got me to bust mine on the first try.
 

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The Model Y Perf can run 11.7-12.0 right now at 112-114mph. The Y dual motor LR runs 12.7-12.9@110-111 stock and 12.3-12.6@112-114 with the $3K acceleration “boost” OTA. But, they also go 135-155mph on top end dependent on model trim. No big deal here in the U.S. for 99.999% of us. ?

*If* the GT gets 8-10 secs of full power it’s a 12.0-12.2 1/4 mile vehicle, trap speeds easily at 108-110mph, depending. If they let it eat for 12-15 secs you’ll see the full potential of 11.7-11.9@ 113-115mph trap speeds.

Bet: Ford only allows the full Monty in Unbridled mode. ??‍♂
Math looks pretty good.

The $65,000 question is what will you do if the GTPE beats the Blazer SS both in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile after the update? And without having to go into some 12 step button pushing WOW mode.
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Hard to believe Ford will increase the 5 second power limit for my pre-June 2022 GT that still has an unfried HVBJB. After all, Ford has acknowledged that original HVBJB design is defective under the current power limitation scheme. I wonder if this will be a two tier OTA update : an increased full power time limit for cars with the new and improved HVBJB, and nothing for us poor saps still living with the ticking time bomb that is the original (defective) pre-June 2022 HVBJB? Will I need to fry my HVBJB and get the replacement part before I get the increased time limit OTA?
Thinking the same thing here; however, not all HVBJB May fail. On the other hand maybe enough have been replaced they are good with the rest failing. In my case it will not make a difference as there are few places where you can safely go over the 5 second acceleration on the roads in Alaska anyway. I did take it up to 100MPH once on a long newly paved road last summer. That section of road is already splitting and sinking into permafrost so I will have to find a new spot to try things out when (if) they lift the limit.
 

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So, rolling all the way back, I’m pretty sure Darren Palmer is some high-ranking ford mucky-muck. I’d love to hear his explanation why they’ve taken that decision.
Ford:

We conducted a survey and found that 95% of owners wanted remote frunk release of which 50% upgraded to a newer model just for this feature. Therefore, we will leave it disabled on Job1 vehicles in order to increase sales of newer models. /s
 

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I don't think I've ever used the whole 5 seconds.
Not to be mean, but you should. It's sort of central to being a Mustang - go fast, straight. Not doing it at least once just seems wrong.

Getting more than 5 seconds would be awesome (that's what she said!), but I'm really more interested in keeping power up longer (also what she said...). Not being able to play with flashy Accords with fake R badges at highway speeds makes me sad.
 

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Ford:

We conducted a survey and found that 95% of owners wanted remote frunk release of which 50% upgraded to a newer model just for this feature. Therefore, we will leave it disabled on Job1 vehicles in order to increase sales of newer models. /s
I must be in the 5%.

Only time I’ve opened the frunk is to show people it has a frunk.

By far the least convenient place to store stuff (hottest place too).

And the FordPass remote release? Also way less convenient than pulling the lever.

I would trade my frunk button for a physical tailgate opening button (and no I’m not gonna install it myself).
 

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I must be in the 5%.

Only time I’ve opened the frunk is to show people it has a frunk.

By far the least convenient place to store stuff (hottest place too).

And the FordPass remote release? Also way less convenient than pulling the lever.

I would trade my frunk button for a physical tailgate opening button (and no I’m not gonna install it myself).
It was sarcasm. But if we want to take it seriously I would agree. I never use the frunk and could care less about having it in FP. But for those who want it and deserve it they should get it.
 

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Ford:

We conducted a survey and found that 95% of owners wanted remote frunk release of which 50% upgraded to a newer model just for this feature. Therefore, we will leave it disabled on Job1 vehicles in order to increase sales of newer models. /s
Yes, but then I’ll lose my hands-free liftgate and parking assist ?
 

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It was sarcasm. But if we want to take it seriously I would agree. I never use the frunk and could care less about having it in FP. But for those who want it and deserve it they should get it.
I totally get that many people don’t use the frunk. I suspect that’s why automakers don’t prioritize creating a frunk when they design electric vehicles.
Some people find the frunk VERY convenient for a variety of reasons previously listed (messy gear, smelly leftovers, groceries, shrimp, pizza, koi pond - the uses are endless ???
As for remote release in FordPass, try screwing around opening the car and pulling the lever if you have a bunch of groceries ???
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