Preparing for Mach-E charging at home - preparation and installing charger

[Illinibird]

This is why I was hoping the MME would have a "Sentry Mode" type capability. Watching all of those videos of people keying Teslas, I would love to have the ability to turn camera footage over to the police / insurance if that happens to the MME.

I hear ya! Hope for OTA for this. We don't have a camera for inside the car (I think) but Sentry Mode really deals with outside of car and we have 4 cameras that I'm aware of. Would you use a USB flash drive running in a loop to record the data?

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[OldEVGuy]

My colleague Tom Moloughney will have a full in-depth AC charging overview of the Mustang Mach-E tomorrow. Yes, it charges at 48amps as we know but he goes through all the at-home charging options. Keep an eye on InsideEVs

It's posted!

 

[trutolife27]

yeah this should get some likes

 

[JamieGeek]

Lots and lots of cable p0rn there ! LOL

I'm envious of all those chargers (I only have two mounted to the wall...)

 

[TheVirtualTim]

yeah this should get some likes

I had seen his comparison of the various home chargers and it was really well-done ... but that was before anyone had a car for evaluation. I'm glad to see there were no issues with any of the cars.

Also, I saw an unrelated video about using Tesla AC chargers for non-Tesla cars via the TeslaTap (and clones) and that person had issues trying to get it to work. I see in Tom's video he mentions to make sure to get the 80amp version of the adapter ... and that may explain why the other reviewer had problems (I think they only had the 40 amp version). Had I not seen this video, I would have bought the 48amp version of the adapter and may have had issues. (I'll likely put-off buying the adapter right away, but probably will get one next summer.)

 

[macchiaz-o]

I had seen his comparison of the various home chargers and it was really well-done ... but that was before anyone had a car for evaluation. I'm glad to see there were no issues with any of the cars.

Also, I saw an unrelated video about using Tesla AC chargers for non-Tesla cars via the TeslaTap (and clones) and that person had issues trying to get it to work. I see in Tom's video he mentions to make sure to get the 80amp version of the adapter ... and that may explain why the other reviewer had problems (I think they only had the 40 amp version). Had I not seen this video, I would have bought the 48amp version of the adapter and may have had issues. (I'll likely put-off buying the adapter right away, but probably will get one next summer.)

The 40A and 80A versions work the same way. The only difference is cable ampacity and maybe higher current rated connectors, too.

Using an underrated adapter may cause the setup to overheat and melt or start a fire.

 

[dbsb3233]

The 40A and 80A versions work the same way. The only difference is cable ampacity and maybe higher current rated connectors, too.

Using an underrated adapter may cause the setup to overheat and melt or start a fire.

Are any/many Tesla destination chargers >40A? That would be the only place I might use a Tesla charger.

 

[macchiaz-o]

Are any/many Tesla destination chargers >40A? That would be the only place I might use a Tesla charger.

I doubt it. But also, unless it's listed to that level of detail on PlugShare, how will we know?

 

[generaltso]

Are any/many Tesla destination chargers >40A? That would be the only place I might use a Tesla charger.

The current version does support 48A.

https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector

So you really won't necessarily know the amperage of a destination charger. That's why it's best just to get the 80A Tesla Tap if you don't already have one. If you already have a 50A, you'd likely be fine for occasional use, but you could be getting close to the rated capacity of the adapter. You should not use a 40A Tesla Tap unless you know for sure that the charger is set for 32A or below. This could all be avoided if you could just set the charging limit in the car.

 

[Maquis]

Hello,
Has anyone seen a drawing of, or know the physical dimensions of the Ford Connected Charge Station? I'm trying to plan a location for it near my garage sub-panel and it's pretty crowded already. The only thing related to dimensions on the "Home install spec sheet" is " Between 35” and 60” from ground to device midpoint. " I'd like to know the width and location and size of the wiring connection.
Thanks!

 

[horsiedad]

I have a ChargePoint Home Flex on order. I've run a THHN #6-3C w/ ground cable from the electrical panel in my basement to my garage. Right now, the wire protrudes through a hole in the garage wall. My plan is to install the ChargePoint unit in the garage myself, but have an electrician connect the other end to a new 60 amp breaker. (There is room and capacity in the existing panel.)

For those that have hardwired a ChargePoint unit (or seen it installed), do I need to install a junction box in the wall behind the charger, or can I terminate the cable directly into the back of charger?

 

[macchiaz-o]

I have a ChargePoint Home Flex on order. I've run a THHN #6-3C w/ ground cable from the electrical panel in my basement to my garage. Right now, the wire protrudes through a hole in the garage wall. My plan is to install the ChargePoint unit in the garage myself, but have an electrician connect the other end to a new 60 amp breaker. (There is room and capacity in the existing panel.)

For those that have hardwired a ChargePoint unit (or seen it installed), do I need to install a junction box in the wall behind the charger, or can I terminate the cable directly into the back of charger?

I'm starting off with the mobile charger and a 14-50 receptacle. That's in a 2-gang outlet box in the wall.

I plan to replace the receptacle with either a ChargePoint Home Flex or the FCCS (probably the latter). Either one should be mounted to studs. And either one should also at least partially if not fully cover up the outlet box hidden behind them. This should especially be true for the Ford option since its mounting plate offers three positions to choose from.

If the ChargePoint back cover doesn't fully cover an in-wall box, you might have to patch the drywall to conceal the exposed part. That doesn't seem so bad as a worst case.

 

[macchiaz-o]

Hello,
Has anyone seen a drawing of, or know the physical dimensions of the Ford Connected Charge Station? I'm trying to plan a location for it near my garage sub-panel and it's pretty crowded already. The only thing related to dimensions on the "Home install spec sheet" is " Between 35” and 60” from ground to device midpoint. " I'd like to know the width and location and size of the wiring connection.
Thanks!

I wish we could get a copy of the actual installation instructions! It would be so helpful for planning.

Here's the best info I've found so far:

Rendering of the mounting plate that attaches to wall studs:

Right below the plate, you can see two sets of concentric circles. It might be the case that for a back-wired installation, we're intended to drill out the correct hole diameter using a step bit. Until I can see the manual, I can't be sure.

I also don't know if there is a hole at the bottom for a conduit fed, bottom-wired install. (There probably is, though.)

As far as the dimensions of what we're seeing in the above rendering, I'm so far trusting what is shown on the product page:

258mm X 450mm x 131mm (WxHxD)

Which is about 10.1" W x 17.7" H x 5.2" D. For the whole box. The back plate appears to be just a little bit narrower than the box that hangs onto it.

Anyway, I hope this helps!

 

[macchiaz-o]

I've been looking for more specific mounting/wiring instructions for the FCCS. May I ask where you got the "mounting plate" info? Tks!

Timely question! See the post I made a few seconds after yours.

 

[Dangerfish]

Thank you to everyone that participates in this forum. I became aware of the MME for the first time just last week and ordered one 2 days later. So I've been playing catch up to learn what I need to know about EV's.

I have an electrician currently installing a NEMA 14-50 outlet for me in my garage. Cost was $500. They are putting in a 50amp breaker but it is with 4 gauge wire so if I want to add a 48amp charger at some point in the future, I simply need to upgrade the breaker.

Now, I just need a build date.

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