Is the Mach-E really 7 years behind Tesla?

[Nak]

Hmmm. Having problems with economics, english and technology all in one post, are we? That's OK, those are hard. Let me help.

When somebody gives something to someone else in exchange for money, that means they are "selling" it. Hard, I know. So "sell" is just a dandy word to use in this context.

A project is "economically viable" if there is net benefit from the project once all economic, social and environmental costs and benefits are factored in. If the $35K wasn't "economically viable", Tesla wouldn't be selling it. Is it the most profitable model? Of course not.

OK, here's the really hard part: if you can build a battery with 54% greater range for 56% less money, EV's will get cheaper and a $25K economy version is clearly possible.

I get that you can't grasp the technology behind the new battery, most people can't. It's not just one improvement. It's the totality of the redesign of manufacturing, materials and structure that made yesterday's presentation the harbinger of a truly profound step on the road to sustainable energy.

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[eastern refugee]

I believe it was today that the governor of California signed a bill that states as of 2035 no new cars run on gas will be sold in this state. Sure that is 15 years from now but it is a clear line in the sand about BEV adoption.

what I love about the MME is having a speedometer where it belongs. I hope that you can buy an upgraded battery when it is available. As for Musk he lies a lot. Eventually he comes through-but it is MANY years later. If he said 2 years then it is likely 6 plus years

 

[DaveRuns]

All valid. In the end, it’s all about what’s important to you. It’ll differ for each person.

 

[Yoliber]

Idk if this has been talked about, but Tesla has an internal counter for the amount of supercharges you've used. They'll throttle your charging speed. My neighbor and a loaner car of mine is stuck at 60kW.

We don't know if the Mach-E will be the same, but likely not.

 

[dbsb3233]

No. That's the $64,000 question.

Of course, even EPA highway numbers aren't highway speed (just 48 MPH), so the only useful highway numbers will come from reviewers telling us what they get at 70 MPH or so.

 

[dbsb3233]

I think this post would be relevant in the "Mach-E Re-sale value" thread. I say that because if the Mach-E has a 140 KW battery pack in 2 years, our measely little 2021 variants will be "worthless".

Stick a space in there and I'd agree ("worth less" instead of "worthless").

 

[RonTCat]

If you tell me the overall upside to Ford publishing the highway range, I will tell you when Ford is publishing it.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Loss leader. Get them in the door and turn their heads with something else. Not that that has ever worked on me.

 

[dbsb3233]

If you tell me the overall upside to Ford publishing the highway range, I will tell you when Ford is publishing it.

Maybe because it could push a buyer into one of Ford's more profitable vehicles instead?

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

If you tell me the overall upside to Ford publishing the highway range, I will tell you when Ford is publishing it.

Touche sir. But I do have a prediction:

AWD ER: greater than 50 miles and less than 300 miles.
Or we can find out the old fashioned way: Road trip!

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