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I'm actually kind of confused about where the correct winch points are. The top diagram shows them in front of the front axles, but the Munroe pic it looks like that thing circled in green is behind the axle. Also the Towing manual says they are in front of the front axle.
The Munroe picture is clearly in front of the tires. Axle? What's an axle?
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The Munroe picture is clearly in front of the tires. Axle? What's an axle?
whatever it's called, must be an optical illusion, looks like it's behind it to me.

Also, love the smart ass response, clearly I was concerned enough to get clarification on this important issue. We gotta be nicer to people with questions.
 

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Looks like I was thrown off by the mud-flap thing, I can see what angle this was taken from now.
 

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I am happy to have a hitch installed for a bike rack but also jacking and possible winching. That rail is so tempting to use, I didn't. There are marks on the plastic showing lift points...but many will assume the prominent black rail is the way to go.

PDF printed and in the glove box. Thanks.
 


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Tow operators, beware the only winch points on a Ford Mustang Mach-E are forward of the front suspension, shown in green. There is a larger hole for a winch or J-hook, and a smaller hole for a tie-down or R-hook. There is no screw-in tow hook on North American models, so the forward winch points must be used.

Do NOT pull, winch, or jack on the ALUMINUM square tubing with holes under the rocker panels, shown in blue in the figure. This is the battery guardrail, but is not designed for structural use! If you winch with a hook on this rail, it will tear (below photo) and you will permanently damage the high voltage battery. Tow operators, be aware the battery costs $28,000 to replace after the rails are ripped open, which may exceed your liability insurance. This unfortunate mistake has happened several times now, resulting in large insurance claims against the towing companies that ripped open the rails. Do not even think of putting hooks behind the front wheels on a Mach-E!

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Battery Info:

The Mach-E has a high voltage lithium ion (350V) and a low voltage lead acid AGM (12V) battery. The high voltage battery is located under the passenger compartment and is exposed on the bottom of the car. Do not scrape or damage it. The 12V battery is located in the front hood under a plastic cover. If you are called for a dead/stranded Mach-E, please attempt to jump start the 12V battery first, just like a regular car. Unless the owner drove the car to 0 miles of charge, most dead Mach-E's are actually caused by 12V battery problems. Please use jumper cables as if you were jumping a diesel engine, the small jump packs (JNC) do not always provide enough power to start a Mach-E (30+ amps needed).

Towing Info:

FYI the rear axle is locked with a parking pawl on all models. Vehicles may be RWD or AWD. When using a wheel-lift truck, the other axle (front or rear) must be put on dollies because the electric motors are permanently engaged to the wheels. Mach-E may also be flat-towed at slow speed after being put in Emergency Tow Mode (see vehicle owner's manual). The maximum speed is 35 MPH and max distance is 50 mi. If towing on a flatbed, please put the vehicle in neutral using Temporary Neutral or Emergency Tow Mode before winching. The car will not stay in neutral after you get out (automatic return to park) unless you use these modes. Temporary Neutral (expires in 30 min) may be engaged by shifting into neutral (N) and pressing the low (L) button, turn off and exit. Do not flat tow in Temporary Neutral because the park pawl may engage and lock the rear axle, breaking the rear transmission. Only use Emergency Tow Mode for flat towing.

Jacking Info:

The correct jacking points are on the battery case outboard of the guardrail, show in yellow in the figure. Use lift pad extensions if necessary. Again, do not jack or lift on the aluminum guardrail. It may crush under the weight of the vehicle (5,000 lbs).

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This is the most information rich post I have seen on this forum in a long time. Well thought out and detailed. Thank you for the information.
 

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The Munroe picture is clearly in front of the tires. Axle? What's an axle?
Half-shafts are still axles. Axle is also used to define a set of rolling wheels (ie bridge toll for 2-3-4-5 axle vehicles). You know this, everyone knows this.
the semantics Nazis on this forum are almost as annoying as the cold weather Range complainers.
 

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Half-shafts are still axles. Axle is also used to define a set of rolling wheels (ie bridge toll for 2-3-4-5 axle vehicles). You know this, everyone knows this.
the semantics ***** on this forum are almost as annoying as the cold weather Range complainers.
The use of that word is objectionable. The comment was made tongue-in-cheek.
 

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Now that we have verified the tow points and the jack points, what about the tie-down points for the tow truck flatbed?
 

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Now that we have verified the tow points and the jack points, what about the tie-down points for the tow truck flatbed?
On my hot rod they just wrap the top of tire.
 

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Hey, I know that picture of a ripped battery rail. I guess I should have cleaned up the dirt if I knew it was going to be famous :) Thanks for a great post!
 

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Hey, I know that picture of a ripped battery rail. I guess I should have cleaned up the dirt if I knew it was going to be famous :) Thanks for a great post!
I posted all this information months ago, along with pictures, and a link to the pdf towing guide. I printed the guide, and it is in my car now. Search for posts by DSSDMD AND TOWING TO SEE IT ALL. i BOUGHT 2 T HOOKS FOR TOWING, BUT THEY DO NOT FIT IN THE HOLES. i JUST ORDERED SOME J HOOKS- UNDER $40.00- to see if they fit. Now try to convince a tow truck driver to listen to you on how to do it correctly!
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