What happens when you press the door open button?

[leehinde]

I agree. Even without Paak, the first press does nothing. I treat it like an elevator button, pressing it as many times as necessary for the stupid door to open. You simply can't run up to the car, jump in and go. It has to admit you first.

This is me. Especially if I start with the back seat, which I do a lot.

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[superdave80]

Who was Lou Gherig's Disease named for?

"God love Lou Gehrig, Jesus Christ, poor Lou Gehrig
Died of Lou Gehrig's disease
How the Hell did he not see that coming? "

-Dennis Leary

 

[Motomax]

Usually if the button lights up before you press it, it will only take one push. If it’s not lit up, it will wake the car.
There’s also a 3rd option that happens once in a blue moon where it sounds like it tried to open without unlocking the door…lol

 

[ctenidae]

Usually if the button lights up before you press it, it will only take one push. If it’s not lit up, it will wake the car.

That's my expectation, but the "not lit up" scenario doesn't seem to result in the car waking up a lot of the time.

To rephrase the question more precisely: If a random person without PAAK or a key fob walked up to a Mach e and pressed the door button, what does the computer do? Is there a routine that checks for a button press and then initiates some process or set of processes? Does it tell the car to look for a fob or PaaK? Does it set Bluetooth or WiFi to scan for known devices? Does it prime the alarm sensors? Or does the simian just get another banana to throw at the unlock button at Ford HQ?

 

[West1134]

Interesting question. I exclusively use PaaK and it is hit or miss on how my entry to the car works.

Some mornings I walk out the car "senses me" and the button is lit up and upon a single press it opens.

Other times, I press the button and I hear some sort of "activation" towards the front of the car, generally followed by (within a second or so) the button lighting up and then it working.

And further times, I press the button tons of times and nothing happens. I then pull out my phone and get it close to the front door (I'm usually trying to get into the back to drop my bag first) and then it connects and works.

Overall, I still like Paak enough to not carry the fob, even with the inconsistent performance.

 

[ctenidae]

Interesting question. I exclusively use PaaK and it is hit or miss on how my entry to the car works.

Some mornings I walk out the car "senses me" and the button is lit up and upon a single press it opens.

Other times, I press the button and I hear some sort of "activation" towards the front of the car, generally followed by (within a second or so) the button lighting up and then it working.

And further times, I press the button tons of times and nothing happens. I then pull out my phone and get it close to the front door (I'm usually trying to get into the back to drop my bag first) and then it connects and works.

Overall, I still like Paak enough to not carry the fob, even with the inconsistent performance.

100% my experience. I can't tell if opening the phone or FP, or mashing the button like I'm playing Centipede, or clicking my heels opens the door, or if it's just the time it takes to do all that lets the car wake up enough to know I'm there. I'm 15 feet from the car wrangling 2 kids out the door every morning, you'd think it would notice me at some point, but nope, no consistency at all.

Has anyone mapped the scanning activity of the car? Could someone?

 

[Maquis]

I wonder if having the welcome lighting enabled (I do) has an effect? The car’s awake before I press the button.

 

[2021-MMEx-RT1]

For a techie to push the button and not say "I only use toilets with autoflush" is startling....

Meh, pee in the sink, no need to flush...

 

[West1134]

100% my experience. I can't tell if opening the phone or FP, or mashing the button like I'm playing Centipede, or clicking my heels opens the door, or if it's just the time it takes to do all that lets the car wake up enough to know I'm there. I'm 15 feet from the car wrangling 2 kids out the door every morning, you'd think it would notice me at some point, but nope, no consistency at all.

Has anyone mapped the scanning activity of the car? Could someone?

Agreed. I have two kids and some mornings its a quick access to get into the car, other mornings its stop everything put things down pull out the phone etc.

What is interesting - and I assume this is all related to the car going into some sort of "deep sleep" overnight - when I get home from work, exit the car, go inside, then pop back out say 15-20 mins later, sometimes 1-2 hrs later to the garage to our beverage fridge (phone in my pocket) I get greeted by the car with the Pony puddle light etc. which is great. It's just curious to me why it'll stay "aware" of my presence for so long after getting home, but other times I run into a store for 5 mins and then come bcak and the car doesn't sense me etc.

My only assumption is that when I'm home my proximity is such (only a few walls away) that the phone just stays connected longer.

 

[azerik]

It appears the phones BT radio keep talking to the car for quite some time. I parked the other day, went inside, put the fob down (not terribly far from the car as it's about 15ft away) did some things inside then had to go back to the garage 5 or so minutes later. Car woke up. Took the dog for a 5 minutes walk, came back, car woke up again. Phone in my pocket, fob stationary. Has nothing to do with the door button but it could for those of us with 12v drain that we can't quite figure out. I walk 'past' my car to 2 other bedrooms all the time. I assume it's waking most of that time as well. I still need a Faraday wall to set this fob on.

My only assumption is that when I'm home my proximity is such (only a few walls away) that the phone just stays connected longer.

I think it's this. PaaK not working in a parking lot if probably BTLE interference from everyone else and other things around the lot.

 

[tomterky]

PAAK/2021/Job1: it seems to take one press to wake up and another 1-2 seconds later the button lights up and a second press opens it.
If I try the rear door first, it's nothing on the first and each subsequent press until I press the driver's door then both open.

exact same thing with mine. and same job1.

 

[superdave80]

If it’s not lit up, it will wake the car.

And this is why Ford software engineers suck:

I just pressed the 'OPEN DOOR' button. If you need to 'wake' the car, fine. But then, pretty please open the door, because I just pressed the 'OPEN DOOR' button. Did they think I just wanted to 'wake' the car and then stare at it from the outside???

 

[ctenidae]

Is this Ford's first PaaK implementation? I wonder if it just hasn't been used enough for the engineers to surface problems like this.

 

[superdave80]

Is this Ford's first PaaK implementation? I wonder if it just hasn't been used enough for the engineers to surface problems like this.

It's an issue with the FOB as well. The button instead of handle idea is just stupid for so many reasons, and I hope it dies quickly.

 

[Blue highway]

a long time ago in software revisions that are far far away... I'd push the button a half dozen times (click, click, click rapidly) and it would usually, eventually, wake up and open the door.

Recently, with all modules as up to date (via FDRS) it's mostly one button push to open. Rarely after a deep sleep it's one push, hear the relays firing, then a second push opens the door.

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