California 2024 registration fee $756 for my 23 premium.

[Mach1E]

the tax I pay on electricity is miniscule compared to the tax for gas. And break out the relatively tiny amount of electricity I use in a month even more miniscule (I think my rough estimate, maybe 10% or less of my monthly electricity goes to charging my car) Having an EV fee (which in most states is less than $200) seems like the easiest way to deal with the EVs not using gas, hence not paying gas tax for road maintenance while using these roads. Ideally, they could base the EV fee on miles each driver does, but think the complexities of doing that might be self defeating.

Haven’t done the math on electricity tax vs gas tax in terms of amount.

But even if it is “less,” isn’t that kind of the point of an EV? Use less resources, pollute less, and encourage people to buy them?

I would hope you would save some money on taxes for those reasons.

Edit- I tried to make sense of an FPL bill for 1000 kWh (2500 miles).
https://www.fpl.com/content/dam/fplgp/us/en/rates/pdf/residential-explanation.pdf

2/3 of the bill is for taxes, fees, and infrastructure stuff.

That’s definitely not nothing

If I’m paying a fee for environmental impact and hurricane infrastructure, they could easily tack on some for roads.

In comparison, the gas tax is a maximum of 55 cents per gallon (roughly 1/6 of the bill).

From a percentage of fuel cost standpoint, we pay more in taxes. Luckily the fuel is cheap.

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[lwilliams0514]

$762 for a 2022 Premium renewal in California. So basically the same.

Same here 2021 Premium here in Cali too

 

[leehinde]

Yeah, I just paid mine and wanted to go back and see what the breakdown is, but was denied just like you. Just something to remember to do in 11.5 months. I don't think the paper renewal has the breakdown.

Not this, but you can find out what part of your fee is tax deductible here: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/wasapp/FeeCalculatorWeb/vlfForm.do

 

[zvez]

Haven’t done the math on electricity tax vs gas tax in terms of amount.

But even if it is “less,” isn’t that kind of the point of an EV? Use less resources, pollute less, and encourage people to buy them?

I would hope you would save some money on taxes for those reasons.

Edit- I tried to make sense of an FPL bill for 1000 kWh (2500 miles).
https://www.fpl.com/content/dam/fplgp/us/en/rates/pdf/residential-explanation.pdf

2/3 of the bill is for taxes, fees, and infrastructure stuff.

That’s definitely not nothing

If I’m paying a fee for environmental impact and hurricane infrastructure, they could easily tack on some for roads.

In comparison, the gas tax is a maximum of 55 cents per gallon (roughly 1/6 of the bill).

From a percentage of fuel cost standpoint, we pay more in taxes. Luckily the fuel is cheap.

I'm not sure how easy it would be to tack on road tax on an electricity bill, again you'd have to separate the ev users from ICE vehicle or are you saying the gas tax should be on all electricity bills.

As an aside, I read up on GA gas tax, 100% of gas tax is used on road maintenance, construction of roads and bridges in the state. I've attached our monthly GA power bill. This is a typical month for spring, summer would of course be higher because of AC.

The total of the bill comes to $97, only around $8 is tax. Would it be reasonable to add the other fees in comparison? I don't see how it would be. You'd be distorting the tax comparison. Now my average monthly usage for charging my car is around 125 kwh. So yes, tax on that is pretty minimal.

Just to make it less complicated, Electricity usage with sales tax only is 15 cents per kwh

BTW, ignore the $125, that's budget billing monthly payment.

 

[Mach1E]

I'm not sure how easy it would be to tack on road tax on an electricity bill, again you'd have to separate the ev users from ICE vehicle or are you saying the gas tax should be on all electricity bills.

As an aside, I read up on GA gas tax, 100% of gas tax is used on road maintenance, construction of roads and bridges in the state. I've attached our monthly GA power bill. This is a typical month for spring, summer would of course be higher because of AC.

The total of the bill comes to $97, only around $8 is tax. Would it be reasonable to add the other fees in comparison? I don't see how it would be. You'd be distorting the tax comparison. Now my average monthly usage for charging my car is around 125 kwh. So yes, tax on that is pretty minimal.

Just to make it less complicated, Electricity usage with sales tax only is 15 cents per kwh

BTW, ignore the $125, that's budget billing monthly payment.

I think it’s fair to add on other fees in this comparison.

Why?

Because we are “overpaying” our share of those taxes and fees due to increased electricity usage while we are “underpaying” our share of fees on gasoline.

We are paying taxes and fees on our “fuel” either way.

It’s up to the government to make sure the money goes to the right places if needed.

Either way, I don’t think we need to charge people $700/yr to register an EV to make up for it.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

Roughly 250 for state and 150 for the city. 100 is in leu of gas tax, but comes with exemption from otherwise mandated car emissions inspections.

 

[AlpaChino]

My 2021 premium 4x was 640.00 this year, 700ish last year, and 800 the year before. Thanks, Indiana and your shitty fucking roads.

 

[ThatGuyLando]

again, how much of that is for the fact it's an EV and how much is what any vehicle would be charged.

190 for my mini van and the same for my previous mazda cx-5

 

[jeffMachE]

$1300 and change in colorado

Colorado charges an ownership tax for all new vehicles across a 4-year period, so a good portion of that $1300 is the ownership tax. The EV-specific fee is on the order of $60.

 

[Arsenic17]

Colorado charges an ownership tax for all new vehicles across a 4-year period, so a good portion of that $1300 is the ownership tax. The EV-specific fee is on the order of $60.

Correct but This thread isn't specifically about the EV fee. It's about your total registration cost...

 

[thenew3]

Correct but This thread isn't specifically about the EV fee. It's about your total registration cost...

I thought this thread is about the "EV Tax" hidden as part of the registration fee.

 

[DugthePug Dad]

It’s a little bit of both. Total of the registration fees because of the EV charge.

 

[Space_Pony]

My 2021 premium 4x was 640.00 this year, 700ish last year, and 800 the year before. Thanks, Indiana and your shitty fucking roads.

The Indiana EV fee is $221.

 

[Lord Polymath]

$258 with custom plate here in Arkansas

 

[Thesmoothdome]

Wow!

I knew it was coming but it’s shocking when you see it…

What are you getting hit with?

My '21 Premium cost $799 in '22 and $769 in '23 in California. We moved to Virginia in February and paid like $33 for 3 years, but we have a personal property tax out here that goes to the county, which is calculated on the value of the car in January. This year, it was $1400. Next year will be a lot lower with the drop in resale prices.

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