Phil Martin
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They can install their chargers wherever, the problem is half of them are busted.
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Ioniq 5 has a dealer update that all vehicles can get to DCFC preconditioningKia and Hyundai can't charge fast in winter because they cannot precondition battery, and a cold battery won't accept full charge rate. I think the most recent brand new Ioniq5/EV6 may be able to, and they might be working on an update so that more of them can precondition.
Ford should buy them out or something. I honestly donāt know why Ford doesnāt just do itās own CCS network like Tesla, maybe throw in some perks for Ford owners like cheaper rates or being able to reserve a chargerThe diesel-gate fine money should be running out in 2024. I donāt think EA has 5 years to get its act together.
This was the SuperCharger line at the Madonna Inn in San Luis Obispo California (Sort of). The picture is taken looking towards the out of view station, which is past the restaurant and at the far end of the parking lot. Itās on a busy day when parents were picking up kids at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. Expect something like that.Just thinking how many e cars will be on the road one year from nowā¦donāt go anywhere on a holiday weekend! Itās already a problem, and playing catch up will never happen at this rate.
Yes, Teslas network can also hit max capacity. The question is this: How often is this the case for Tesla Superchargers and how does it compare to the CCS network? Every single time Iāve had to use CCS chargers Iāve had issues with capacity, AND broken chargers. Iāve made several trips with my buddyās model Y. Not ONE issue. Most EA stations in SoCal are 4-6 stalls. Most superchargers are 10+. And for the CCS networks you have to account for broken chargers with at least 50% being non-functional. So thatās effectively 2-3 working charging stalls per station.This was the SuperCharger line at the Madonna Inn in San Luis Obispo California (Sort of). The picture is taken looking towards the out of view station, which is past the restaurant and at the far end of the parking lot. Itās on a busy day when parents were picking up kids at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. Expect something like that.
I donāt disagree with you and I also have no dog in this fight as EA has zero plans for this state even after the IRA and Tesla did one and done last year.Yes, Teslas network can also hit max capacity. The question is this: How often is this the case for Tesla Superchargers and how does it compare to the CCS network? Every single time Iāve had to use CCS chargers Iāve had issues with capacity, AND broken chargers. Iāve made several trips with my buddyās model Y. Not ONE issue. Most EA stations in SoCal are 4-6 stalls. Most superchargers are 10+. And for the CCS networks you have to account for broken chargers with at least 50% being non-functional. So thatās effectively 2-3 working charging stalls per station.
So I absolutely understand the people being skeptical towards EA. Their network is atrocious and this plan isnāt inspiring any confidence. Especially since they will install in 5 years what Tesla will install just this year alone.
Sigh. Yes, it's his "right" to do that, but people who say that are generally a-holes. "Sorry, I have a really long stretch before the next DCFC and my battery is small, so I need every electron" doesn't revoke his man card, I'm pretty sure .I've had to wait for a few Bolt drivers charging to 100% as well. I actually asked one of them nicely if they could stop at 95% as it would take another, what 20 minutes, to get to 100%. He firmly said no and that it is his right to charge to 100%. The uneducated masses in regards to charging etiquette are going to grow and the systems and UX are not in place to try and maintain charging station efficiency.
A couple of possibilities for the low acceptance vehicle and the "must have 100%"... If the car won't accept at least half the capability of the charger within a couple of minutes of starting charge, or when the charge exceeds 80-85% battery capacity, charge a per kWh or per minute penalty. Many would find that pretty reasonable. See also the recent rant on the State of Charge You Tube channel about free charging manufacturer incentives.Sigh. Yes, it's his "right" to do that, but people who say that are generally a-holes. "Sorry, I have a really long stretch before the next DCFC and my battery is small, so I need every electron" doesn't revoke his man card, I'm pretty sure .
Why is it so hard for people to be courteous?
Is that station at āthe walk at highwoods preserveāThatās the thingā¦.weāre seeing longer lines at the EA stations. I experienced it for the 1st in Dec at the EA station here in Tampa. Reading Plugshare, that same EA station had lines last week.
I believe that they depend on contractors to handle maintenance. But we donāt know EAās maintenance standards. EvGo in a blog post from a couple of months ago lays out their maintenance response time standards for their Renewal program.